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    If you want to understand how 37% can still support Trump, all you need to do is spend a day watching Fox News. It’s completely detached from reality and in this Fantasy land they’ve imagined the president is a heroic figure and all minorities are evil extremists. The 37% get all their news straight from the propaganda machine and refuse to believe any other source is credible.

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      Fox News is interchangeable with OAN, Newsmax, Breitbart, and [insert any right-wing white supremacist fascist Nazi broligarch grifting podcaster here].

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        There’s an interesting and distinct difference in flavors of conspiracies supported by viewers of TV news propaganda and the people who doomscroll social media for news.

        The Fox News viewers are all believe roughly the same brand of crazy. The social media users build their reality freestyle out of the craziest conspiracies imaginable.

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        They’re not quite interchangeable but rather are more of a scale. They start out with propaganda that’s still mostly believable but subtly wrong in various ways on Fox, but the constant hammering that they’re being lied to by <insert any non-Fox news source that’s left of Hitler> eventually drives them to checking out the crazier places like OAN, Newsmax, and Breitbart. Then the whole thing repeats but now the fact that reality doesn’t line up with the things that they’re being told convinces them that everyone is lying to them and there’re conspiracies under every rock and leaf which then drives them to the real kooks over in the podcasts, talk radio, and social media. At which point they genuinely start believing in jewish space lasers and secret pizza parlor basements where people drink the blood of children, and the transformation from mildly misinformed libertarian asshole who watches Fox News into white supremacist neo-nazi who listens to podcasts you’ve never heard of and posts racist conspiracy theories on Facebook is complete.

        You know they’re nearing the end when they start complaining about how Fox News is too liberal and has been taken over by Democrats so they don’t watch it anymore. At that point they’re so far down the rabbit hole I’m not sure if anything short of professional psychological help is going to fix them. At this point I’m afraid that about a third of the US is clinically insane and I’ve really got no clue how you fix that.

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        And that’s based mostly on a rural urban divide, where republicans in rural areas act like an outsider from the city.

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          Yea. I get that rural and urban areas have different issues and vote for candidates they hope will represent them best.

          The issue is that no candidate truly represents their constituents any more because they are funded by corporations whose agendas are directly opposed to both rural and urban citizens.

          Politicians campaign on empty promises and fool voters into electing them on false promises and policies and immediately pass laws that favor their financial donors instead.

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      Sample sizes can fuck anything up, you see if they included me the sheer gravity of my distaste for that man would wreck the scale.

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          Look at any survey/poll/study on any topic. About 30% of people support whatever the bad option is. The subject matter doesn’t impact that result significantly.

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            That ‘30%’ number seems like desperate coping pulled out of someone’s ass. The more accurate number is about 4% of people that are eager to reply with random bullshit. The remaining 32% of this rating are entirely your neighbours and relatives supporting the idiot fascist child rapist for president.

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              The remaining 32% of this rating are entirely your neighbours and relatives supporting the idiot fascist child rapist for president.

              Really supports the argument that no matter how terrible something is, 32% of people will support it.

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        I’m also curious where you got that number. It would be kinda crazy if 10% of the world were pedos… that’s 800 million people…

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          First, I didn’t say they were pedophiles. I said more than 10% support a pedophile.

          Second, depending on how you define what it means to be a pedophile you could very easily end up with more than 10% of the population falling into that category.

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    mass murder and industrial scale rape of children on epstein island (thats then used as bribery material by foreign powers) is bad, sure… but we all draw the line at gas over 3.96 a gallon!

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      To them it’s all about teams.

      They root for the home team cause they believe it’s about identity instead of ideas.

      The cold hard truth is that they want white nationalism at all costs

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      The reason that a lot of places are not doing this kind of polling is because these are done by polling land line phone numbers (if you call cell numbers you could get people anywhere in the world, if you call US landline numbers you get people who live in the US).

      This method used to be perfectly okay when everyone had telephone service that comes through a wire, now that isn’t the case. Because of this, there is inherent selection bias towards the kinds of people who would have land line phones (older people).

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    35% of that is Maga. That extra one percent is more troubling. Anyone not already part of the Trump cult should be against this by now

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    It’s sad there were people who only voted for Trump for their own gains and now because of it their entire country will fall to pieces.

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      I’m convinced that ~30-35% of all living beings are complete and utter psychopaths, who are incapable of caring about anything that doesn’t affect them on a personal basis. Literally a third of all people going about their lives with no empathy whatsoever. I wonder what the evolutionary purpose for this is…

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        Probably those without emotions can take riskier and more damming roles of society and real the benefits while indirectly killing everyone else ask the way up the ladder and reproduce with several failed marriages. It’s like an asshole run and dump rogue like for them and they just love seeing the funny number ($) go up

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    36% is all the Democrats and that bunch of Republicans that are fine with mass murder, genocide, rape, child rape, extrajudicial actions, work camps, fraud and abuse, and so much more, but draw a line with high gas prices.

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    Hopefully after trump is gone we go back to journalism and reporting facts, not the dissonant entertainment that has become “news” due to friends of fascists owning all news media. Not exactly like “1984” though. Instead of Big Brother it’s more like Schoolyard Bully.