UK and Japan among countries that are considering options but yet to commit warships to blockaded shipping route

Countries including the UK, Japan, China and South Korea have said they are still considering their options but without making commitments after the US president, Donald Trump, urged them to send warships to the strait of Hormuz to secure the vital shipping route.

The effective closure of the strait of Hormuz by Tehran, in retaliation for airstrikes by the US and Israel, has proved catastrophic for global energy and trade flows, causing the largest oil supply disruption in history and soaring global oil prices.

However, the international response to Trump’s call for the dispatch of warships has so far proved vague and reluctant, with countries unwilling to commit to a military response that could prove treacherous for their navies.

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    This seems to suggest that shitting on our allies, behaving erratically, and stabbing them in the back (and front) isn’t the best way to build a broad coalition devoted to mutual interests, to say nothing of a narrow coalition devoted to obvious imperialism. I look forward to learning more about this hypothesis in The Art of the Deal 2.

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    This is really stupid, just from a strategic point of view, let alone from a moral or political perspective. Sending ships into the Strait just puts those ships in the line of fire…so, why would anyone actually agree to send ships there?

    Iran has the “high ground” here. There is no way for ships to take back control of the Strait this way. All the US is doing, is asking allies to take losses for no reason.

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      Or… he’s asking them to take losses because he doesn’t consider them allies. World conquest would be easier with the Chinese and UK navies out of the way.

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    As it should. NATO is a defense alliance, not a pedoking/kingbibi distraction gone bad. I hope the EU can keep holding on, because the influx into far right parties and EU election tampering has become noticeable enough to possibly change this in the future.

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      Why isn’t the Orange ShitGoblin using the ‘Board of Peace’ to sort this trifling issue out?

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        Isn’t that what MAGA claims Jan. 6th was about? People are getting increasingly put into bubbles to work against their own countries by networks bought up by billionaires exactly for that purpose, and they are spinning it just as you have.

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      I dislike increasingly elaborate insult names, absolutely no one who cares about it really needs convincing, they just make it unnecessarily long and random nonsensical jibberish. And I like mangos.

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        If they don’t make any sense to you, you might be clueless. Two words, too “increasingly elaborate” for you, and one of them is literally used by the supporter’s of whom I was referring to.

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          It’s obvious, elaborate means that they’re getting longer and varied and more contrived. We don’t need a million variations of insults for someone that is already reviled.

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      The scary far right parties tend to be against NATO. CDU implemented all of the hateful anti-immigrant legislation the AfD wanted. Its those “pure liberal hearts” that want war on Russia, and digital ID surveillance.

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        Sorry bud, Russia launched the “three day” invasion of Ukraine, not the other way around. Digital ID surveillance, that’s not party dependent, how blind do you have to be to not see Palantir over in the US. From the power hungry to the people seeing fake Internet theory work out in social networks, they all want “digital ID surveillance”.

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    The US has the largest military navy in the world, by far. They can very well choose to “escort ships” on their own, if they’re ready to accept the risks that comes with it.

    The US is essentially looking for a sucker to stick his neck out for them. The British would be smart to keep out of this one, but again, they’re British.

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      American here.

      Our asshole government started this fucking war and is fully responsible for the consequences. Other countries should embargo us until we agree to pay reparations to cover the economic damage caused by the war. Or better yet - seize any assets of American oligarchs to cover damages.

      It sounds like I’m ignoring the human cost of the war, and that’s because the human cost isn’t a concern for those behind Trump. The billionaire class running this country doesn’t care about how many innocent people suffer, so they need to be attacked economically.

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      I’m not sure the American people have learned their lesson yet. I say let the Tariffs continue until they realize they should never elect another Republican again. I say that as an American paying for the tariffs. The answer should just be “No.”

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    Good. Fuck the US, Israel and Trump. And fuck anyone and everyone that supports this pedophilic nazi piece of shit.

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    Why should any sane country even respond? This is an American-Israeli undertaking. They started it out of folly, they deal with it.

    Maybe he should ask his “Board of Peace” for support. There are more than enough bootlickers.

    Or the ships should simply follow the law of the seas: the country responsible for the ships’ security in such cases is the one they are sailing under. Let’s see how Panama, Nigeria, Philippines (or whatever is the cheapest flag of fancy at the moment) run to help.

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    Once again, the USA being the only NATO member to ask ‘allies’ for help, only to later call all of them freeloaders.

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    There’s a very simple solution to it. The US fucks off. They’ve made things a lot worse for themselves and everyone else as it is, so pull out now and we’ll all try figure out how to clean this mess up over the next year or two.

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    Calling us is lovely, but what exactly would you like us to do?

    We warned you that they would close the strait and that the world would be powerless. Now you went and did it anyway.

    So… Exactly WHAT would you like us to do?

    There are mines in that narrow gap now. We need to clear them while Iran is taking potshots at us. Clearing mines takes weeks. Even when NOT being shot at.

    No Trump. You break it, you own it.