• jmsy@lemmy.world
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    whenever there is breaking news, I always pop over to 4chan. They have videos, images, witnesses, and statements before any mainstream media.

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    In https://lemmy.world/c/Epsteinfiles from 17 days ago:

    https://lemmy.world/post/42921222?scrollToComments=true

    There were two IP’s associated with these comments.

    107.77.223.177

    and

    172.58.139.162

    One IP was responsible for all of the comments regarding medical information (which can be confirmed in part by the autopsy, also available unredacted (mostly) in the files(.

    I tried to follow up on the FBI effort to get the cell data for both of these. As far as I can tell, the rPtND1Si post resolved to a new jersey IP (this is the AT&T customer), and the second resolved to a sprint customer (swam8WIF). If you look up the second IP, it resolved to the Chicago area (the sprint customer). The sprint response to the FBI record request stated that their system used “dynamic IP”. Its not clear to me the FBI followed up on the sprint customer any further. My read was they couldnt get a location from that IP because of sprints internal system.

    See here: https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet 9/EFTA00133349.pdf for the original data.

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      Sounds like Epstein got the confidential-informant-who-gets-a-fake-identity treatment. From the sounds of the rumors, it wouldn’t be the FBI either. Given it involves international parties, it would probably involve the CIA and Epstein would literally be protected by the Intelligence Identities Protection Act if his new identity were to be revealed, and at the highest classification of secrecy, so nobody involved in the operation probably even knows who they are providing support to.

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        I mean the autopsy agrees with the statements in the 3 post 4chan thread, which was the first to claim epstein was dead. There was also a leak in some of the docs with a reporting reaching out to the FBI about a paramedic who leaked the situation via 4chan. So at least the FBI clearly thought that claim was credible.

        The second 4chan claim, about the swapping out. This one is tough. I’ve dug around and I can’t confirm that the subpoena records go anywhere. I can find the subpoena to 4chan and 4chans legal response. I can also find the subpoenas to T-mobile and I think Sprint, looking for the information on the IP addresses given by 4chans legal response. But I can’t find the response from the telcoms to those subpoenas. Thats where the chain ends for me currently.

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    On one hand I’m happy this fuck is dead, and I hope he did suffer.

    On the other hand, we all know he did not commit suicide and got killed by the Pedoresident following the playbook of his BFF putin to try to save his fat orange pedo ass

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      There’s still the option that it was a faked death. That much wealth and power, if it could be done, that’s who and when it would be done. I’m not giving it much credence without more evidence, but I’ve got no reason to think that it’s not possible given the series of absurd happenings that morning.

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        There’s still the option that it was a faked death.

        I love watching credible conspiracy theories turn into pure garbage conspiracy theories right before my eyes in one thread.

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          Like when Andy Kaufman did an entire show at the Apollo with ‘his grandmother’ rocking back and forth in a chair off to one side, only to pull off the wig and it was Robin Williams (in his quietest role ever) all along?

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        Not impossible, but I don’t see what advantage there would be to keeping him alive vs just getting rid of him entirely.

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          A simple trade, destruction of evidence in exchange for his life. Mind you I’d still kill him regardless but I also wouldn’t make any deal with slime like that to begin with.

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            I’m guessing a guy like that who traded in relationships and secrets would be smart enough to set up a dead man drop in the event he goes quiet for too long. It keeps his life valuable.

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              That too. Really it would depend how stupid he and his handlers were/are, I can’t really make any statements on stupid or smart rich assholes are though since I come from a place of assuming everyone of these profligates are universally just above braindead.

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      Does it still count as suicide if they hand you the rope and tell you this is the easy way out and if you don’t play ball they’ll make sure it’s painful?

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        The only threat they needed to make was a return to general population.

        I seem to remember him being attacked by another inmate. Instead of being put into protective custody he was put on suicide watch, which is its own kind of hell.

        So, he changed his will to fuck over his victims, and is suddenly pulled off suicide watch.

        The only two people needed to then make sure Epstein was dead would be the warden probably Epstein’s own lawyer. Maybe the psychiatrist who signed off on the removal from suicide watch… But the suicide watch wasn’t initially justified, so pulling Epstein off it wouldn’t seem strange.

        Hell, if you were a clever, high placed official in the DOJ, an example being Bill Barr, you could simply tell the warden to “put some pressure on the pedo” and then use the lawyer to deliver the real message of “kill yourself before we put you into the general population”.

        Then you get a dead loose end and no record of illegal activity inside the prison. Also you only have to buy off a single person who likely already has questionable morals.

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    We have it on record that Epstein and Bannon were frequenting 4chan, so I can only assume it was someone from his circles

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      Its not. By 2019 there were hundreds of thousands of 4chan users. There were two threads of comments the FBI considered credible. One, specifically focused on observable medical conditions and procedures related to the minutes and hour immediately around the time where Epstein’s body is allegedly discovered.

      https://www.justice.gov/age-verify?destination=%2Fepstein%2Ffiles%2FDataSet+9%2FEFTA00129268.pdf

      This leads to this document, “EFTA00091641.pdf”, and the MCC employee “Tova Noel”, and you’ll find this question:

      Search “Verizon” and “Tova Noel”, and you can confirm they were a Verizon customer in document “EFTA00133624.pdf”, from bank records the FBI obtained. These records show the withdrawl dates on which automatic billing occurred.

      Go to document “EFTA00123473.pdf” or “EFTA00125018.pdf” and you get the Verizon subpoena, although, numbers redacted, etc… etc… but its got the specific date window that matters (July 6 2019 until August 13 2019). “EFTA00133182.pdf” gets you the list of all subpoenas, and is redacted poorly enough such that we can infer which people are being targeted. Specifically, Shuliac, Noel, Thomas remain unredacted/ sloppily redacted.

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    It’s hardly surprising that an anonymous social media post could be made quicker than a news story gets approved for publishing?

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      Why would a journalist put an anonymous leak on 4chan before publishing their own story? Don’t journalists want their name/company associated with the story?

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        Sorry, wasn’t suggesting that the journalist did (not that it would harm their story or reputation much for 4chan to see it first) - anyone remotely close to the trail of information between the jail finding out and ABC publishing their story could have posted it - and even if they found out at the same time as the journalist did, they would have easily been first given how much needs to be checked before publishing an article under the name of a news org.