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    Ford can’t hire techs cuz they don’t pay shit. No robot with any amount of ai nonsense in it will ever be remotely capable of replacing a mechanic. When is it ok to get the acetylene torch out? How does the bolt FEEL as you undo it, is it about to snap? Do u need to pump heat into it and feed it some wax? Did you spill brake fluid on the customers paint? Was the customer concern duplicated before determining what the repair was? Who did the diagnostic work? Was it test driven and quality checked afterward? Was the customer made aware of any other potential issues down the road? Ai and robots may be able to help in menial and manufacturing tasks but would never be capable of repair in automotive, especially not anywhere rust is common !

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      A robot can perfectly fine replace a mechanic if you redesign the car entirely to be machine serviceble and then also build a service center around that.

      It would just cost more money to do it that way then how we currently do it. By a fuck load.

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        True that, but then that service shop could only work on vehicles that are designed to be compatible with that service center. It honestly wouldnt surprise me to see that sort of thing in a few decades for day some Tesla nonsense that they don’t want mechanics touching anyways.

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      Jim Farley recently did a town hall or something similar and all the mechanics on the internet ask him to come into the shops and see what the work is actually like. He didn’t address the low pay etc. Just pay the techs more and they’ll come. A good tech needs to know air conditioning , electrical, networking amongst other stuff and they still get paid shit. Chrysler has an airbag recall listed at. 1.4hr, but it takes about 2hrs of fast paced work as an example.

      Here’s Mr Subaru

      https://youtu.be/3kEN6tAe-eg

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        Ah yes, management led time studies. The bane of my career as an industrial engineer. Sure I could lie and tell you it thinks it’ll take as long as you feel it could or what the original MOST says, but then we’d both be wrong and the workers are still either running over or skipping shit and have more turnover than a washing machine. Or we could talk to the worker, track how long it actually takes a regular worker at a reasonable pace, see if anything is impeding their ability to do what needs done, then tell the budget people the actual price to do the task.

        No, management does not like me.

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        Flat rate encourages bad behaviour and has ruined the automotive field for both consumers and workers, the only winners are the owners fucking us both!

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        Repetitive factory assembly of one vehicle and automotive repair share just about nothing besides that a vehicle is involved in both. This is like saying a robot could replace a tailor because robots make clothes in factories, this is something that only makes sense if you don’t know anything about either lol.

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      There’s a list of republicans working that factory floor encouraged by it, thinking full well “They won’t take my job, just the lazy paint line”. My job is actually important.

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    During his visit to the plant on Tuesday, Trump flipped off a Ford worker and said “f*ck you” after the employee called him a “pedophile protector.”

    A gentleman and scholar, folks.

    He should be fired just like that cyclist who flipped him off during his first term.

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    I predict that robots are gonna be a big factor in the future and it’s gonna help out.

    He really did peak in the '80s.

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    lol imagine telling people you will get people jobs and reinvigorate the auto industry etc. and then telling people there are things called robots that will replace them and it’s a good thing the auto companies are shrinking the workforce.

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    I’m generally pro industrial automation (it’s useful and as an engineer some of the most fun stuff to implement), but you can’t go from 0-100, we’ve seen what that looks like with tesla. You have to slowly and steadily ramp it up. Also the laborers deserve compensation for being automated away

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    You’re gonna have a thing that you already had for 4 decades!

    The president of the USA, people! Nobody is smarter than him!