Please don’t tell me “see a therapist” I know that already.

  • Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world
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    26 days ago

    My rebuttal is that your mom’s a bitch and there’s no reason to pay attention to anything she says.

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      26 days ago

      Confirmed. Tagged this person before, I’ve noticed they often comment about some fucked up shit their mom says. But they’re young and probably not able to escape it yet unfortunately :/

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      She’s giving you the most difficult life lesson. I am almost 40 and to this day I dread to ‘actively hear’ many words my dad has to say about me or my decisions. It’s a difficult lesson because they are our caregivers and as such they did many good deeds. But at some point we need to put our own mental health above anyone else’s rant, rage, or toxicity. We don’t owe them shit. After that leap, you may be able to come back to the issue that they were addressing with their comments and reflect upon the issue itself on your own and/ or with the help of others (friends, therapist, chatgpt?? I wouldn’t recommend the latter but it may be a good starting point and better than nothing…)

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    She’s utterly wrong. Take Robin Williams as an example: he was famous, rich, loved by everybody, stupendously funny. Still had depression. Still suffered.

    It has nothing to do with people’s “value” or their work ethic.

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      He had Lewy Body Dementia, which is a horrific disease. That’s why he killed himself. Not depression. Look into what it’s like to experience that disease, and you would probably want to kill yourself also.

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        I wrote a longer comment above, but you should know that the symptom of actual clinical depression is present in many neurological disorders, including Lewy Body Dementia: when both are present they cannot be separated.

        But what you say is absolutely true: the disease is beyond horrible.

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    That statement has as much empirical evidence behind it as stating that depression is caused by the lost souls of dead aliens from an ancient federation killed by an evil overlord being stuck to your person and generating negative thoughts as a result of their traumatic death.

    Hitchen’s Razor is your ally; what can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence.

    Tell your mom some random on the internet told her she can eat a bag of dicks.

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        Scientoligical, even. Just listening to it, I can feel my personal agency transcending its bond with matter to the point of mastery over it as I shed those lost souls. If you too, would like to learn how, please DM me and have a payment method ready. Trascendental enlightenment ain’t cheap.

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    1. All humans have an inherent value.
    2. Depression has numerous contributing environmental, social, and biological factors.
    3. Who asked bitch? Shut your dumb ass up.
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    You cannot logically rebut a bad worldview. Plant seeds of doubt, protect yourself, and move on.

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    There’s no rebuttal. Some people are just wrong and honestly better of out of your life.

    Also, I can’t imagine she’s just a great, enriching person except for those two opinions.

    Prune her of your life.

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    I’d tell them to shut the fuck up and not to speak that way about people in my presence.

    My parents try to bait me into silly and shitty discussions like this, usually prompted by some conservative bullshit they saw on their preferred news program, and I just very simply say: “We can’t discuss this because it is going to make me hate you.” That’s been enough to put an end to it for me.

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    I’m sorry you have to deal with that sort of toxicity in your family. There is no good rebuttal because it just seems like a lack of empathy, no one can make her care.

    I’m sure that’s rough for you. Wishing you happy holidays despite this callus friction. 💜❤️♥️😘

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    Agree with her. Then say all these old and retired people aren’t contributing to the economy anymore and don’t deserve to live. Then you ask her how old she is, for effect.

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      And specifically ask her, at which age or milestone does she think it’s not worth to keep her alive anymore? You can suggest the point where she retires.