Do you consider ghosting people a reasonable way to deal with today’s overwhelming and constant information and notification overload? Or do you find it offensive and unfriendly?

Would you equate it to a person ignoring you irl or is ignoring a text different?

For this post let’s assume the people involved are or were in the past friends, and ghosting is leaving someone on “read” for more than 2 days.

  • Dorkyd68@lemmy.world
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    4 hours ago

    Eh. I get it. You don’t owe anyone an explanation. Unless you’ve been dating for like 8 months or something

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    15 hours ago

    Depends. Someone toxic that doesn’t respect boundaries? Absolutely. A good friend for no reason? No.

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      6 hours ago

      I don’t take ghosting from women too personally. It still stings, but I understand. I’ve heard horror stories of men who will think of any response, even if it’s “fuck off, leave me alone!” as a chance. So ghosting is the way to go in these circumstances.

      The woman doesn’t know if I’m one of those men. So again, if I’m ghosted, I try to shrug it off and move on.

      A friend, though? They’d better tell me they were in a coma or something. Otherwise they can fuck right off.

  • blarghly@lemmy.world
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    16 hours ago

    ghosting is leaving someone on “read” for more than 2 days.

    This is totally normal behavior. People are busy. Sometimes they read your message and say to themselves “I see this now, but I’m feeling stressed and busy right now - I’ll reply later when I can write a good response.” But then later happens, and it turns out they are tired and forgetful.

    Especially if you are just trying to have a casual conversation - people will treat these messages as lower priority and also as requiring more emotional energy, since the conversation isn’t urgent but they don’t want to write dismissive one word responses.

    I recommend:

    1. Send texts primarily to exchange information or make arrangements to meet.
    2. If you want to have a conversation, either meet in person or have a phone call.
    3. If a person has failed to respond to a text, then wait until the next time you have some reason to contact them - which could be as simple as “I want to talk to them”. At which point, text them the info you need to give to them and/or pitch a time to meet up or have a phone call. If they don’t respond to this, I tend to follow up with a snarky “HellooOOOoooo”. And then if they don’t respond to that, a sincere message asking if they are okay. If they still don’t respond to that, depending on the friendship, I may either write them off, or ask mutual friends what is going on.
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    1 day ago

    For this post let’s assume the people involved are or were in the past friends, and ghosting is leaving someone on “read” for more than 2 days.

    This doesn’t match how I’m used to seeing ghosting defined.

    That behavior might be unfriendly, but there are a ton of innocuous reasons people do it. People are busy and not every message merits a prompt reply. If someone sends me something that requires more time or attention than I have at that moment like a video or news article, I’m likely to make a mental note to look at it later. I might actually remember, and then remember to send a reply about it. I might not.

    It’s maybe a little rude not to respond to something more important or time-sensitive, but I can always ask again or use something more synchronous like a voice call. People are busy, life happens, tech can be unreliable. It’s best not to assume intentional disrespect.


    My understanding of the term “ghosting” is permanent or long-term cessation of communication over all channels without explanation. That should be reserved for situations where someone is a physical danger or behaved in a manner so egregious they almost certainly know what they did.

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      4 hours ago

      Yeah, there seem to be two definitions of ghosting.

      The actual definition is when someone you have an established relationship with cuts off all communication without explaination. For example, if your girlfriend of a year and a half just stopped responding to all texts and calls and blocks you on all socials, that would be ghosting.

      Then there is the terminally online and emotionally fragile definition, which is when literally anyone doesn’t respond to your messages with the utmost urgency and priority. Eg, a girl you matched with on a dating app doesn’t keep your endless boring conversations going. Or, as here, a friend doesn’t respond to a text immediately.

      Unfortunately, the second definition tends to predominate online, and it’s hard not to feel the cringe when someone uses it.

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      22 hours ago

      Texts are literally made for busy people. I don’t understand how you can call later but not have time later to check their text. Calls demand you at the very moment but texts allow you to respond whenever you are free.

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        6 hours ago

        Uh sure. Texts allow you to respond whenever you are free. But if you don’t want to, you don’t have to. My free time is my own for me to use in any way I please. And if I don’t want to reply to anyone in particular during my free time, no one should judge me for that. I’ll reply to you when I want to. That’s why it’s asynchronous communication. Need something more immediate? Call. Visit. Or try texting again (but don’t send a barrage of texts.)

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        17 hours ago

        I am likely to send more texts, but at some point, if someone is not getting back to me in the timeframe I want them to, I will call them to force the issue rather than silently getting mad about their slow response.

    • El Barto@lemmy.world
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      6 hours ago

      Naaaah, if you have five people in a year texting you over and over demanding your attention, then getting even more texts when you reply with “yo don’t text me again,” you’ll learn to ghost very quickly.

      I’m not saying that’s everyone’s experience. But understand that not everyone does it for the pleasure of dehumanizing.

  • zerozaku@lemmy.world
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    22 hours ago

    Since many have already answered to OP, I will ask another version of question similar to this.

    What kind of ghosting is this when people only text you when you text them first? And when you don’t, the conversation never happens again?

    • El Barto@lemmy.world
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      6 hours ago

      Answer: that’s not ghosting. That’s like saying “what kind of lamp is this computer speaker?”

      Ghosting is when the other person never responds, ever, even if you send them messages. As long as they respond, again, that’s not ghosting.

      That’s just a person for whom you are not a priority in their lives.

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    17 hours ago

    It depends on the situation and level of time investment.

    If it’s someone you just met and immediately didn’t vibe with I think it’s fine, no time invested

    If you’ve been on a date with them it’s kinda expected to turn them down. Time has been invested, if it’s a no don’t let them waste time.

    If you run into them regularly it’s a bad idea regardless because leaving them on perpetual read with no resolution creates tension.

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    1 day ago

    I got to be good friends with someone I met at work and we gamed online when we could. We’d be playing a game, and he would always get so angry, raging at the game into the mic (I’m the only one listening, mind you), actually getting angry at a video game. I would find it amusing at first, but it became exhausting after a while, so I would find other games to play or just go invisible on Steam. He’d call me every so often, asking what’s up or if I was playing that night, but I’d find other things to do or say I wasn’t playing much anymore. I really hate lying to people.

    It wasn’t until years later he started getting assault weapons, talking conservatively, and becoming toxic in general. I decided to ghost him because I felt I couldn’t trust him anymore. It’s really too bad, as he was a nice guy at first, but something changed in him and it gave me an icky feeling. I suppose it’s for the better, as I have no idea how he would have handled my transition.

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    22 hours ago

    Depends on how much time you knew someone. But I think generally it’s speaks better of a person not to ghost someone. I’d want someone to tell me, and it’s only right to do the same in kind for someone else.

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    Assuming they’re simply friends;

    2 days…not a big deal. You’re friends not partners. They have their own priorities and probably was in the middle of something when they read it and forgot. Bit crappy if they do it often, but thats how some people are.

    2 weeks…if you texted them a few times, and know they’re alive via other means, than yeah something happended that lead to the ignore you. Could be something in their personal life changed, or its you.

    2 months…try to connect via mutual friends, attempt to learn why they’re ghosting you

    2 years…they’re not your friend anymore, leave them alone.

    (Also turn off read receipts, that shit is toxic)

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      21 hours ago

      I am majorly on single messaging app and rarely visit others and I had this close irl friend who ghosted me for an year and came back very recently.

      I was so confused why they would just leave me on read for over an year. Yes, we had our career paths shift away from eachother but still felt crazy to me. They did text me on other sites though in this one year period, where I’m inactive. I kinda felt lonely and eventually made sure I’m active on other popular apps as well so I don’t get left out. We had a little chat recently but yeah not like we used to.

      (Oh I just realised I left out one very popular messaging app too. I need ro work on that and actively add people there so I’m available when they think of me. Putting them away saying “hey I dont use that app” would only discourage them from connecting me)

  • kelpie_is_trying@lemmy.world
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    It can be very rude, but occasionally is understandable or even necessary. For example, if you’re not sure that someone is a threat to you, feelings might get hurt, but ghosting is a very fair play. But if you just can’t be bothered to let someone know you’re not interested, you are a jerk for leaving them hanging.

    I dont think the act is inherently good or bad. It’s the ‘why’ that really counts with this angle.

    Edit: after reading the body of the post (bad habit lol) I wouldn’t say that’s a huge deal. 2 days on read ime often means they’re either busy or aren’t sure how they’d like to respond for any number of reasons. 2 weeks tho, I might be a bit offended or hurt. Some people are just like that tho, so it depends on what I know of their typical patterns.

    I’ve got one friend who I’ve known since childhood and have left on read the last couple weeks, not because I dont like him or want to talk to him, but because we just kind of burn each other out in certain ways. He does the same with me for periods too, but we always eventually get back to chatting and hanging out again. We’re just not each other’s favorite flavor, even if we enjoy a taste here and there, if that makes sense. Neither of us thinks of it as ghosting so much as putting the bookmark in and getting back to things when the time is right on both ends, and that’s just how our dynamic seems to work best.

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    1 day ago

    It’s a de facto standard behaviour I’ve come to expect. I shrug my shoulders and move on.

  • krooklochurm@lemmy.ca
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    1 day ago

    I’ve always found that a solid exorcist helps a lot with ghosting. It’s important to get a good one though. A bad exorcist can actually increase ghosting.