• danc4498@lemmy.world
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    21 days ago

    Death penalty for a murder of a single persons seems harsh. I’m anti death penalty 100% of the time, though.

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      21 days ago

      They want the death penalty in case other Americans get ideas. They want to make an example out of him.

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      20 days ago

      ah I see you’re still using “person” as a measurement unit instead of the more modern “net worth”

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      21 days ago

      This particular murder is a challenge to the rule of law as a basic principle in a way that, for example, multiple murders by a serial killer are not. The serial killer does more direct harm, but IMO this murder requires more forceful repudiation by society.

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            20 days ago

            Do you use web or a mobile app? Voyager, thunder, and boost have this as a feature, and apparently there’s a Firefox extension that can do it also

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          20 days ago

          Nice, now I kind of wish you could see what other people have tagged users as. Except for the rampant abuse that would proliferate from that capability.

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          20 days ago

          …huh. I read that as giving the viewpoint of this administration, not as presenting a more fundamental (to them) truth.

          I suspect you’ve got the more accurate read; thanks for posting this!

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        21 days ago

        What do we do about the murder of thousands by using AI to refuse medical care, and instead funnel the profits to shareholder portfolios?

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        19 days ago

        If that is your take then you are a monster. A sociopathic monster.

        The CEO in question was directly responsible for the deaths of thousands of people through sheer greed.

        You are not a human being.

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        21 days ago

        I guess it makes sense. A principled murder needs harsher punishment than even a serial killer… That’s the theory anyway.

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    20 days ago

    Everyone say it with me, “Luigi Mangione is an innocent man being framed by the government because they were unable to find the real culprit.”

    #free Luigi

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      Given the general discontent with healthcare it feels inevitable. People identify with Mangione’s plight in a way they don’t with the money grubbing CEO.

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      Just knowing about this can disqualify you from being on a jury. And lying about knowing about it can get you a jail sentence.

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          The point is that you should probably stop smoking weed cause your brain has become mashed potatoes. If you are disqualified from the jury you can’t help anything and if you get arrested for lying they will change the entire jury, considering it completely compromised.

          The real point is, stop talking about it. Choose instead to talk about how innocent you think the man is so that you don’t risk tainting potential jurors who might be sympathetic to your point of view.

          I’m not a lawyer, this is not legal advice.

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            you should probably stop smoking weed cause your brain has become mashed potatoes.

            That’s the most ignorant thing I’ve ever heard. You really bought into that fried egg propaganda commercial, didn’t you?

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              No, I was also just making a joke because what you commented was idiotic.

              However, I’ve smoked weed and lived around people who smoke weed. So I’m quite familiar with the effects and you should probably cut down.

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                I have only has second hand contact to weed. There’s nothing for me to cut down on.

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      This really seems like a scenario where that’s the ideal result. Even assuming he were guilty and the prosecution were able to prove it, he should not be convicted based on the extenuating circumstances of exploitative healthcare costing needless harm and death to millions

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      I doubt the defense would go that route but I’m really curious how it would turn out. Like you’re allowed to use deadly force to save a life, and it could be reasonably argued that hundreds, maybe thousands of lives were saved in the aftermath of the shooting.

      Realistically there’s no way that can be allowed to be a legal precident, but it would be funny to try.

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        My grandfather was about to be kicked out of his nursing home by united. Then the shooting happened amd they “noticed” that his care was actually still covered.

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        So, you really think that a new CEO will act any differently? No lives were saved. The problem is the system. Not an individual CEO.

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          19 days ago

          In the immediate aftermath of the shooting, insurance companies knee jerk approved a shitload of claims they would have normally denied. Even if that’s been “fixed,” the positive effect happened and was not negligible.

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    20 days ago

    Mostly he’ll avoid the death penalty because he didn’t do it. Trump’s comments just make it a bit easier.

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    The judge ordered the DOJ prosecutors to file a response by Oct. 3 that included “a sworn declaration from a person of suitable authority…that explains to the Court how these violations occurred, despite the Court’s April 25 Order, and what steps are being taken to ensure that no future violations occur.”

    The order further required the prosecutors “to advise the Deputy Attorney General, for dissemination within the Department as appropriate, that future violations may result in sanctions, which could include personal financial penalties, contempt of court findings, or relief specific to the prosecution of this matter,” and to include “confirmation that this message has been conveyed to the Deputy Attorney General” in the sworn declaration due Oct. 3.

    Garnett concluded by stating that she “will consider” the statements by DOJ employees cited in the defense letter as part of the defense’s motion to strike the death penalty, spelling out a potentially very real consequence for a Trump administration that has aggressively agitated for severe consequences for Thompson’s murder.

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    19 days ago

    If anyone is to get the death penalty—which I’m against—it should be the people calling for him to get the death penalty.

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    20 days ago

    Mansions saved thousands of lives and more for future generations. Those poor people being denied health…

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      How, is united healtcare bankrupt? Did they change and approve everyone? AFAIK they are just as scummy with a different CEO.

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        In the wake of the shooting, the immediate aftermath, a lot of people suddenly got the health care they’d been denied. It’s true that they didn’t change long term, but for a little while, they did.

        It is so horrible to know that these people need to be actually afraid or they’ll continue to hurt people.