I am not from America and lives in Europe. I am trying to understand what life and values the republicans in office right now wants for America. Is the 50’s America the kind of country they hope to go back to or is it somewhat of a new state we have never seen before?
I am genuinely wondering if they have some kind of “utopian” community in mind doing all these changes to the economy and values.
I think they latch onto the 50s because if you say 60s, you’re thinking hippies and drugs. 70s? Having to admit how badly we’d fucked up in Vietnam and drugs. 80s? Drugs and drugs. Anything later than that is too young for conservatives unless they’re trying to rape it.
Any of them who are old enough to really remember the 50s are too old to remember the 50s. Geriatric mush-brain and everything. It’s just a way to say “back before black people, gays, and women had rights” while preserving the option to backpedal if they took the mask off (or, more fittingly, put the hood on) too early. Also probably would use terms other than black people, gays, and women if speaking freely.
Anything later than that is too young for conservatives unless they’re trying to rape it.
Absolutely beautiful, A+ sentence.
1850’s? Yes.
1750s. They are monarchist fucks.
Yes but also, the 1950s here were a time of social backlash. In the 1940s women were wearing bold red lipstick (because Hitler vocally didn’t like it) and engaging heavily in the economy even in male dominated fields because so many men were in the military that we couldn’t keep the country going otherwise. Meanwhile the men were fighting side by side in desegregated units.
So war ends, and a decent portion of the returning soldiers think things are going to return to normal. But the women got a taste of the freedom of economic independence and black men got a taste of being treated less awfully. The white men feel emasculated. But the benefits of the new deal are here and so a single man can support a family and even move to the all white suburbs on his income thanks to his union job, veteran benefits, and government assistance meant to prevent another period of mass poverty. And this is ignoring the whole deal of how LGBT issues were impacted by the war and its end. Also the second red scare and lavender scare (McCarthyism) happened in the late 40s-early 50s.
And so yeah while you have some counterculture movements in the 50s like beatnicks, biker and leather clubs, the mattachine society, and greasers as well as fighting for black civil rights, the 50s were largely defined by the reactionary forces as the discontent built. The 60s didn’t spring up out of nowhere.
They’re fascists. Literally.
They want to oppress in order to gain total control. Because that’s what fascists do.
So no, the 50s don’t really fit the bill for what they’re being clear they want. In the 50s the middle class was strong because we taxed the everloving fuck out of the wealthy. That’s not what they’re going for here.
Too many Americans are just fundamentally hateful, stupid people and those in power use this fact to further establish themselves. They’re already extremely selfish and amoral so, while I don’t doubt they’re also xenophobic, misogynistic and shortsighted, why would they care if they say X, Y and Z as long as it allows them to keep the grift going? Those who are drinking the Kool Aid are probably fewer in number than those who just think “fuck it, I’m getting the bag” (it all goes back to basic moral relativism, greed and hedonism, as always).
Try 1830s
1750s
They’re going back to the Germany of the 1930’s.
Edit: Except with Epstein files.
No utopias there, just rednecks doing whatever they want with no consequences. Or, that’s what they think as the consequences build up until they’re all dead.
This isn’t rebirth, it’s fire. They’re setting the place on fire, because they want to see people burn as they die. They think it’s funny. Their fictional god told them it’s OK!
No. They absolutely do not want to go back to the 50s. If anything they’re trying to go back to the Gilded Age. They don’t want any part of the 50s.
The want the racist, sexist social aspects of the 50s, but not the economic ones. LBJ’s New Deal allowed a thriving middle class to actually exist at the expense of wealthy people having as much money in their hoard. Can’t have that!
From an outside perspective republicans seems like a bunch of one issue voters (pro gun, anti abortion, etc) coming together and voting against the democrats.
They want something closer to what Pinochet or Franco had going on
The voters were probably thinking about the nostalgia they had as a result of the progressive eras, because they’d get all the benefits, while also not having do deal with racism since they’re white.
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1850s, maybe.







