I rewatched Wall-E the other day. I forgot just how staggeringly good that movie is. How the hell does every single robot have their own personality. Not to mention how everyone that Wall-E interacts with ends up for the better, after a lil chaos, of course. I cried so many times. I’m 33.
Wall-E functioned
He was definitely not running windows
Yeah, he had the mac boot up noise lol
The pre cloud OG Mac boot up sound. Eve is more like an IPhone. Sleek white and locked down but great when it’s connected and working.
Anyone else have an older Mac still ticking away? I have a 2007 20” that’s only had an HD->SSD upgrade and is still good for email file and printer serving and remote backups to FireWire and usb HDs.
I’ve got an old 8 core Mac Pro (the perforated giant aluminum one) too, but haven’t bothered booting it in 6-7 years. It was my render farm for Keyshot for years but I think one of the Ram modules failed at some point.
Walle had the Apple startup chime when he recharged
True. It was also an extremely commercialized capitalist dystopian future. I doubt Linux was being used, and there’s no way Microsoft could create something with WALL-E’s long uptime and low maintenance.
Companies taking advantage of Linux to create locked down, proprietary systems is pretty common. For example, Android is Linux. Many smart TVs run some flavor of Linux. E.g. Tizen from Samsung is Linux based. If a company can short cut the software development process and licensing costs by using Linux, that’s often a first choice. So, my bet would be on Wall-E running on a version of Linux.
The dystopian part would be that the company locked it’s drivers behind a closed source model, and only included highly obscured binaries on Wall-E’s OS. Motors and controllers would be non-standard, requiring closed source firmware and the hardware would refuse to work with any software which isn’t signed by an original manufacturer’s digital certificate. Using an unsigned binary would blow a fuse in Wall-E’s CPU, killing him.
I think Wall-E wasn’t running the base OS anymore. All the other Wall-E units had long since stopped functioning. Wall-E was the result of a random mutation of a bug in the code, not the intended normal state.
The difference between wall-e and eve makes me think of cars. How old and even some modern combustion cars are built well and engineered to be highly modular and user serviceable. EVs are highly proprietary. They rely on closed systems that can’t practically be serviced without special equipment.
Don’t get me wrong. I’m NOT a fan of fossil fuels at all. I just don’t like how cars have been slowly morphing into proprietary unreliable cellphone-like commodities, or how the push towards EVs seems to be accelerating that trend.
A modern high-end BMW can have over a hundred separate ECUs (microcontrollers). All communicating over multiple CAN and FlexRay networks. The complexity is mind boggling, just so you can have subscription based seat heating and other nonsense.
No technician on Earth will be able to debug this black box spaghetti except the manufacturer. If you try to access/reprogram one of these chips (as you should be able as you OWN the damn thing), the microcontroller has OTP (one time programmable) memory that ensures the device can physically brick itself should you try.
No technician on Earth will be able to debug this black box spaghetti except the manufacturer.
I do not share such faith in the manufacturer that made the black box spaghetti.
I do have faith that some random dude in Pakistan will figure out how to unlock a sensor using a paperclip and a 555 timer and will post it to YouTube.
If the person in the video is wearing flip flops and smoking, tends to be good info.
Bmw is dogshit but even when they had 7 computers they were so amazingly ass backwards they had to have chassis diag specialists for each of their higher end models.
Yes, exactly! We are just going to see more of this as time passes and I hate it. Idk what I can to about it other than buy cars that do less of this. Not that my one purchase every other decade really matters.
You can stop buying cars and rennt them instead. The electronic clusterfuck spaghetti is not your problem anymore. You still get all your data harvested and sold to the highest bidder though.
I don’t know much at all about the EV industry, especially how their technology differs between manufacturers. But does that really matter, strictly speaking? Like the majority of “other” repairs are going to be just as uniform as traditional vehicles; things like tire changes, brakes, suspension, and whatever else I’m not smart enough to know about.
Other than the actual engine itself, can that other stuff really be fully proprietary, or non-servicable?
EDIT: I’m realizing that I didn’t really clarify the distinction of “should” vs “does”. I recognize that a huge amount of right to repair bullshit comes from companies being intentionally obtuse/greedy. What I meant to question was whether these restrictions on serviceability actually have merit, or if it’s strictly enshittification being brought into the auto world.
They don’t need much maintenance and the engine brake evs do to recover the energy removes stress on the regular brakes so the brakes last a lot longer.
I’m the sort of person who enjoys doing things myself when it comes to my car. It isn’t just a tinkering hobby to me. My car is a huge source for feelings of safety and control. Theoretically, I could tear down and rebuild almost everything on my car with a socket wrench set. Obviously it’s more complicated than that and as other people have mentioned there are some modern combustion cars that are massively complicated just to stop people like myself from getting into them. EVs on the other hand are way easier to lock down because the whole power train is basically a black box connected to a battery and operated by an app. Sure the breaks and wheels are the same but nearly everything else is either black boxed (motor and controls) or gone completely (transmission and drive train)which makes the car as a whole less fixable / modable. This makes me feel less safe having to rely on one.
You can always get an older car and do a conversion. If you can find one with a bad/no motor you could even save a few bucks.
It seems to me that the future of electric mobillity is more car renting/leasing than car ownership. Servicing will be included in the monthly payment and you won’t have to service it yourself
Not just cars. The logical endpoint of capitalism is a rent-only economy. Everything will shift in ownership to the ones with the ability to purchase above the market price. Undercut everybody for infinite gains in the future.
Edit: I should say that i meant unregulated capitalism. I honestly don’t find anything wrong with people being well payed for doing exceptional things. Taking advantage of capital gains is NOT exceptional.
You’re right, but I just noticed something about that (I’m probably very late to the party here): so an endpoint of unregulated capitalism is that ownership is limited to a few, who almost certainly acquired ownership through some form of class exploitation and theft. Or, to oversimplify it…ownership is theft. Hmm, sounds familiar.
One could argue that the endpoint of socialism is the abolition of individual ownership. Maybe there’s a bridge to be built there?
Renting forever sounds like a nightmare. They already took housing from me. I don’t want to keep losing things.
I don’t know. Personally, I see myself earning a high income and renting a home and a car to free myself from the angst that comes with ownership.
I respect your opinion. I don’t feel the same.
But an electric car is basically just a bigger rc car, it doesn’t need any real maintenance. There’s no fluids.
Remember when apple started getting dinged for programming their batteries to fail artificially and making them unnecessarily hard to replace just to force more people to upgrade?
Mark my words. That trick is coming soon to a Tesla near you.
My kid used to watch it over and over between 3-5 years old. Finally asked him why he liked it, his response was " because you like it".
Well? Did you like it?
Of course! Was just nice he was thinking of someone other than himself and chose based on that.
Windows PC or Linux PC? Cause Windows PC aint gonna run shit with the build quality of the hardware and OS of the average PC.
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The irony is that before M1, while they were on x86, Apple computers were not that different than the rest besides having special motherboards and funky firmware. Even ARM now isn’t proprietary tech, it just isn’t adopted by the others (yet). All in all it’s an artificial distinction so that some people can be separated from their money.
Ayy, recently rewatched that too. Personal headcannon: a better ending would have been a montage of Eva teaching an amnesiac Wall-E all the things he taught her and have him fall in love with those things and her again in the process. Probably more drawn out than “random electric spark magically resets memory” though
I am in my 40s, Wall-e is probably my favorite movie, but that may speak more towards me getting some sort of validation from my neurodivergence assigning personalities and human-like emotions to inanimate objects.
Not only that, Wall-E got crushed and was able to be rebuilt and booted up like nothing ever happened.
Linux PC of course.
Do you remember the old PC and Mac commercials. Funny how PC looks like Pierre P.
Funny, I always thought he looked like a deranged millionaire.
Loose the stache and you have a ringer.
