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It is mind boggling to me that in the year 2023 we’re complaining about porn, LGBT existence, and fucking book content. Isn’t this what we were laughing at 20 years ago? About book burnings and how stupid the previous generations were for fearing and banning media that challenged them?
Isn’t this what we were laughing at 20 years ago?
We were laughing, they were seething and planning.
You should watch the documentary show about the duggars and how they’re part of a huge cult that systemically indoctrinates kids, fucks them, and gets them into politics. It’s disgusting. It’s an organized push of quiverfull fundamentalist shit being pushed into law.
Most of them ARE previous generation.
So, let’s get this straight. They’re going to take a bunch of dudes, take away their porn, not teach them sexual health, not tech them about consent, strip abortion rights, make women scared to come forward, teach them it was their fault, and do nothing about police ineptitude/corruption. I’m not even exaggerating when I say that it seems like the GOP wants a generation of rape babies. Banking on their future voting bloc?
If I had no context and read your comment I’d think you’re describing the Taliban or some other islamofascist government. The GOP has really gone off the deep end.
The gop has really gone off the deep end
“You merely adopted the deep end… I was born I it!”
-The gop
I mean, even with context it’s no different.
When you start talking about consent they get uncomfortable and that’s just a bridge too far. It’s really, really close to accountability, the one thing they hate more than anything else.
rape babies.
Rabies for short.
This is not going to stop porn. All it will do is criminalize the actors, producers, and viewers.
I’m reminded of the drug war, where they took a relatively harmless narcotic used disproportionally by minority populations at the time (Marijuana), and used it to criminalize and imprison large swaths of the population, especially within the black community.
It’s no coincidence that most of the folks targeted by this effort are women and sex industry workers, which skew liberal by a large degree. Note I’m not just talking about prostitution or porn actors, but the entire sex industry, including toys and books.
The GOP is scared shitless of the rising power of women in modern society, and being able to criminalize and consequently attack the revenue stream of sex industry workers is a way to blunt it. There’s also an element of class warfare involved, as OnlyFans or similar sites are often the most economical way for a young woman to lift herself out of poverty if she has no other marketable skills.
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A mentally unwell population hyped to chase an overblown issue is easier to control. They’ll let themselves be exploited as long as the moral panic is hijacking their attention, which is why there is always a new one.
Can we stop blaming this on being “mentally unwell” and recognize these people are assholes? I was suicidal for 18 years, and I managed to never be “unwell” enought to pull the lever for a Republican or to think that policy should only be made for the interests of people like me, so clearly mental wellness isn’t the deciding factor here. Most Nazi voters weren’t mentally ill, and neither are most of these people. They’re deeply, profoundly selfish, not sick.
There wouldn’t be a massive media aparatus from TV to social media meant to manipulate and indoctrinate people into conservatives if it was just a matter of people being inherently good or bad. Hell, this is as old as organized religion, which is historically constantly intertwined with power.
It is a matter mental unwellness. It might not be the same type of mental unwellness as yours, but many people out of vulnerability, insecurity, loneliness or nihilism end up becoming prey to manipulative groups. How many times have I heard stories of people who struggle with something in their lives and end up joining a church and pretty much changing completely. Have you never seen anything like that?
Some people spent all their lives being told what to believe and have a hard time even imagining anything else. Some people who are today completely rabid fascists used to be decent and just lost themselves in a rabbit hole for one reason or another. I get that right now even trying to talk them out of it is a nigh impossible effort, but this wasn’t an inevitable fate written on their soul. It’s a result of widespread propaganda and disinformation that twisted them.
I never said it was fate. Of course propaganda plays a role. All I’m saying is that hate isn’t a mental illness. People are morally responsible for their hate. Lumping people like that in with mentally ill people will make our lives harder, and they’re hard enough already. Associating us with them will make it easier, psychologically, for other people to involuntarily commit us or even kill us (check the stats on police shootings and severe mental illness). I’m not saying people are born to hate. I’m saying we have enough problems, please don’t advocate mixing them in with us. Call hate a “social illness” and treat them that way. We have enough problems.
Fair, “social illness” is a good way to put it.
The fight doesn’t end at the ballot box, but it does start there. Everyone needs to vote. Vote in the primaries, vote in the general, vote in local elections, & vote in state & national elections. Make yourself heard, & organize.
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It’s always incredibly ironic when the party that favors small govt, minimal State, is also the one that loves to make the most bullshit laws curtailing personal freedom.
Not exclusive to the USA, unfortunately.
I’m pretty sure when they say small government they just mean they want a gov that isn’t strong enough to keep them from being the assholes they really are.
Because all those “minimal State” parties are usually corporate beaurocracy parties.
Maybe except anarcho-comunists, they are for “no State at all” or direct democracy.
America is losing the fucking plot!
As someone who stood in front of some dude trying to force me to suck his dick (and I fucked off immediately) and getting back assaulted by randoms on the midschool (while dressed) yet I’m still an hetero, biological male…? What the heck is going on? Why on earth I’d start sucking dicks just because I saw some dude naked on screen? That’d be ridiculous, and a demonstration of a severe lack of wit and common sense. That is like, staring at my own cock would make me gay or something amongst those lines.
But would you do it for a Klondike bar?
When you pry it from my warm, sticky hands…
Or even secretly renting hookers and escorts, even if they are gay or trans.
Don’t mind the ladybugs.
Being a European, I am seeing extremists of both sides picking at each other.
No normal people left anymore?
The US doesn’t have a left wing party. We have a extreme right wing party, and a center right wing party. This both sides shit is stupid as fuck. “We want to ban gays” is extreme. “We want gay people to have rights” is not
I saw a comment on another post by a European explaining American politics to another European.
“Their left is our right, their right is our far right, and their far right are literal flag waving Nazis.”
Accurate.
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Name one left extremist in a position of power.
Go ahead, tell on yourself.
Bernie Sanders and AOC
(This is a joke)
The sad part is that’s the best there is for people on the left out of over 500 Congress people. Yet I still regularly have to listen to morons screech about socialism, communism, “cultural Marxism” etc.
Lol did you just do a “BoTh siDes” which leftist extremist have actual political power in the US. Defending people’s freedom to make and consume legal porn is not an extremist take LOL. I’m also European by the way
The US Democrats aren’t great, especially from our European perspective, but this is such a stupid enlightened centrist type of shit take. The Democrats after all aren’t the one who are banning media and take peoples right away.
I guess if you’re mostly happy with how something is then you’ve no reason to bring it up.
Nobody is writing long articles, posting tweets or appearing on TV shows to talk about it being quite nice that they can currently go and buy a beer from a shop. But someone could easily decide that they want to rile people up about the easiness of buying beer. And it all goes from there.
I mean we literally did that in the 1920s
You can always tell a disingenuous response with the both sides bullshit.
Says the European who already has most of the things our left wants.
And then votes for right wing parties. Just look at Italy and Poland.
Odd, the topic is about a plan for 2025. It is not about two sides bickering at each other.
So weird you brought up a typical conservative argument without anything to prompt it.
Another dumbo heard from.
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Lots of them, but normal doesn’t sell advertisements or make headlines. I see by the downvotes (or whatever Lemmy calls them) that you’ve been visited by the Reddit groupthink. It feels weird when it happens. Some of us just want everyone to get along…which feels radical in its own way.
Groupthink my ass. How about it’s not some idiot conspiracy and he’s just straight up wrong? Tough, I know.
Dumb af and would never happen. I’m sure the porn industry has enough money to buy off politicians.
Or interesting information about them
Look you can call me any name in the book. The current where children can easily form para social relationships with what are essentially pornstars and it’s extremely easy for teenagers to become sex workers isn’t healthy.
I’m not saying Hawley is right but there needs to be some real effort to address this.
This is a mass panic attack over manufactured or overblown fears. But this isn’t going to stop far-right politicians and their allies from capitalizing on this fear.
Bold statement from a guy publishing an article speculating about how the GOP will suspend the first amendment.
Weak statement about the party that is LITERALLY banning books and writing laws against teachers discussing objective historical fact in classrooms across the country.
Not to mention the main point you’d ignored/missed while skimming the headline, which is that pornography is first amendment protected speech according to the law and the gop have been actively working to ban it, as a pillar of their party, for over 50 years at this point.
pornography is first amendment protected speech according to the law and the gop have been actively working to ban it, as a pillar of their party, for over 50 years at this point.
Politicians have been fighting the “moral decay” of society for longer than 50 years, and neither party has had a monopoly on trying to legislate their view of morality.
How close do you think we are to successfully banning pornography in the United States, timeframe-wise?
