• BigBenis@lemmy.world
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    As much as I resent religion, I do believe it’s fundamentally a human problem. People everywhere have a tendency to corrupt beliefs in order to justify being assholes to one another.

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      Religon was created as a control mechanism for governments that didn’t have the capability to enforce laws.

      It’s a method to make communities self police.

      Today it is a dangerous tool left lying around for any con man to pick up and weild

      That’s why fascist movements always have a religious/nationalist base.

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      100%

      That being said, dogmatic belief systems, which tend to be common in religion, seem to act as force multipliers in this regard.

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    ITT people missing the point and projecting their own beliefs and values.

    This is how people “strawman”. It’s easy to hate on atheists if you just see them all as their asshole members. The truth is that any group has their violent nutjobs and vocal minorities. You can’t just say all Muslims are terrorists just the same as you can’t say feminists are hateful crazies.

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      I guess you can hate god as a concept. God can be proven to exists in human minds (no esoteric stuff, just psychology and sociology). You can hate this scientific fact and what it means for humankind.

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      There is a difference between god as a character and God as a concept; the former one is (in my belief) nonexistent, the latter exists as long as his worshipper worship him.

    • HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world
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      I dunno. I’m not entirely an atheist (my religion is blasphemy. If the gods exist, they like a target) but I can hate something I don’t think exists. Some of those deities are godsdamned genocidal maniacs and pedophiles.

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    • actually dangerous white supremacist

    • guy in a ninja costume with a knife

    • weird meme

    • completely made up stereotype

    1/4: do better next time!

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      Misandrists exist, but most are harmless. Social media just does a good job of amplifying them like all outrage.

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          You realize that both misogyny and misandry can exist at the same time in different people?

          I don’t know why you feel like you know me well enough to make that claim.

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                  I’m not doing homework for you. Why don’t you explain it here?

                  It also doesn’t matter. There are encyclopedias worth of work explaining every opinion you can think of. Thing is, I’ve dealt with misandrists. One was a guy so far into the “men cause all the problems” territory that the women of that friend group had to have an intervention because he was being increasingly condescending to even women because he didn’t think they could fight their own fights.

                  Honestly, the biggest issue that misandrists cause is being used as a poster child for misogynists for their impression of feminists. Mostly irrelevant because misogynists don’t need evidence or reason for their mindsets. Like I said, most misandrists are harmless, but they do exist.

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    And ‘assholes’ just appear at random? Nothing in these groups increases or decreases the asshole frequency? Imagine if we thought of all culture that way. Forget about progressive politics changing people’s minds and thereby their behavior. “Some people are just ‘assholes’, what are you gonna do?”

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      Assuming the probability of assholiness based on culture is how you treat cultures unequally. You fight assholiness in the individual level. You can’t change a culture like that. You can only educate people and they will change their own culture.

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        Not all beliefs are equal. If you hold by a holy text that says that women can (and should) be bought and sold or are otherwise ‘lesser’ than men, or you revere an imbecilic demagogue who claims that all immigrants are rapists, murderers and gang members, then yes, the “culture” of your group will have a higher probability of any given person being an asshole than a group of randomly-selected Humanists, for example. To equivocate that all belief systems are equal from a moral perspective is deeply naive.

        ETA: I am not a humanist, because I believe that there is a point at which violence is necessary and justified to protect other lives and the rights thereof.

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        Assuming the probability of assholiness based on culture is how you treat cultures unequally.

        If you agree that bad ideas can be part of cultures (large or small) to a higher or lesser degree, it follows that some cultures have a higher frequency of people with the need for the individual ‘education’ you’re suggesting.

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    Terrible implementation of a decent idea, try again

    There are in fact assholes of every stripe and it is good to be aware of those within your own “camps”

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    3 of these are real examples things the people on the right did, the last is a meme made to make fun of feminists. Don’t get me wrong, there’s a level of feminism that goes too far, I just have yet to see an example of this in real life. There’s something about women in general that makes society eager dismiss them offhand as silly and ridiculous whenever they have opinions.

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    Its always fun when the christian pastor will joke about changing the carpets in the church, while i see posts about the muslims in ramadan will give food to the poor during thier religious month or ramadan.

    Hell (jumping to the dark side. Sorry muslims) but suicide bombers are willing to give thier life to what they believe in (yes, killing others is bad, but giving your life to a cause is respectible), while my christian pastor will live next to neighbours sleeping on a matress in thier front yard, and do nothing to help thier PHYSICAL neighbour.

    Maybe I am the outlier, but for all I see, Christians are the ones pretending to do good, while the muslims had a rough patch almost 20 years ago, and are doing more good that the christians in the last 5 years or so.

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    Represent those you want to support with the best examples and those you want to oppose with the worst examples. Ignore that every group is made of people and people come in many distinct, unique varieties because it doesn’t fit your narrative.