He’s just going to get people killed. But that’s ok he doesn’t give a shit anyways, so it’s moot. What are a few thousand dead peasants when we could make big stock number go up?

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    So I visited Bangladesh one time, and learned they have insanely high rates of cancer there. Why? Well it turns out that (among other reasons) the farmers had been injecting formaldehyde into their vegetables because it made them last longer on the shelves, and therefore sold better.

    This is what you get with no regulations. A sick and dying population.

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      Go read about how horribly adulterated food was in Europe and the US in the 1800s and before. They’d add sawdust to flour, chalk, toxic metals, rotten meat was sold regularly, etc. Patent medicines were essentially drug trafficking or just scams. Soldiers in the Spanish-American war were supplied with canned meat from the US Civil War. I saw an old film from the time the Pure Food and Drug act was passed showing a can of meat being opened and it literally shot out from the gasses inside.

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        Well, the Libertarians and Republicans had their heads poisoned with total rot like Ayn Rand’s horrible sci-fi, and then spent the past several decades screaming about how derrp, we don’t need no regulations!

        Now I guess we all get to find out along with these dolts.

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          Not to mention the US falling 110% into the cult of individualism. Individualism is fine if it is balanced with the needs of society as a whole. You can’t even get people to chip into schools and roads, shared resources, anymore.

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        Do you have examples of this stuff happening in continental European countries? I’d love to jump down that rabbit hole.

        In the past I’ve read descriptions of systematic bad practices in the industrialized Uk, but I can’t recall reading about similar things happening in other western European countries. Nothing systematic anyhow. I’d image that the french would have had a(nother) revolution if anyone had tried that stuff with their food.

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          Enjoy!

          I think the English were just better at recording it.

          https://victorianweb.org/science/health/health1.html

          https://edu.rsc.org/feature/the-fight-against-food-adulteration/2020253.article

          Here is one in Asia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esing_Bakery_incident

          France passed a food adulteration law in 1905. Many countries were cracking down on it around this time along with the US with the Pure Food and Drug Act under Teddy Roosevelt.

          Examples of food adulteration in France in the 1800s:

          https://review.gale.com/2020/01/08/wine-adulteration-in-the-nineteenth-century/

          Copper-colored vegetables: French beans, cucumbers, and samphires were often colored green with copper. This could have fatal consequences.

          Beer: Brewers added substances like copperas, quassia, liquorice juice, and Nux vomica to make beer bitter.

          Wine: The wine industry was affected by the Phylloxera epidemic, which destroyed a large proportion of vines. In response, wine adulteration increased.

          Confectionery: Arsenic and mercury compounds were used as colorants.

          Mustard: Lead chromate was added to mustard.

          Meat: Animal health became a concern as meat consumption increased.

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            Many thanks for the links, was interesting.

            Just by the existence of food standards laws, we know that there must have been food standards problems. Stuff like mayonnaise composition being put into law, must mean that there had been a mayonnaise quality problem or worries at a certain point in time, I just can’t find any specific info on when or what. Those scandals were probably recorded just as well in the news papers of my small country, but if no one writes a new article or paper about the scandal 50+ years after it happened, then that info won’t turn up in an internet search query.

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    You have to remember that musk literally, unironically, thinks we’re npcs. He actually genuinely does not think that the masses of poor people are actually people.

    So no, he won’t fucking care.

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      You got a little extra negative there.

      Not negativity, you can’t overstate the direness. Just grammar.

      He actually genuinely thinks that the masses of poor people aren’t actually people.

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      Pretty sure that level of delusion is comparable to Chris-chan. Which is fitting because if there are two people I want nothing to do with outside of homicide its them. Musk because he is a sub human Anglo African and Chris-Chan because im pretty sure id default to mercy killing them.

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          General disconnect from tbe underlying functions of reality. In the case of Chris-Chan its a matter of their mind being scrambled by underlying mental health issues and decades of trolling, in Musks case its moreso a matter of being a rich being corrosive as a baseline and him being so narcissistic and maladaptive also a lot of ketamine.

          Frankly I pity Chris-chan, as for Musk I would revel in his death.

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            scrambled by underlying mental health issues and decades of trolling

            Hey wouldn’t it be fun if a large group of people spent twenty years convincing a seriously mentally ill person that they have various girlfriends (and trick them into sending porn to those “girlfriends” - usually teenage boys), that Nintendo wants to make their OC official, and then finally that they are an interdimensional goddess with magical powers that needs to have sex with their mom?

            The “Liquid Chris saga” almost seems innocent in comparison to the later shit - but realizing that they probably believed that there was an imposter who had stolen their girlfriend and that Nintendo had been tricked into making the imposter’s Sonichu series… like that’s really fucked up.

            Like, wtf is that other than a mass psychological torture and bullying campaign? Why did no one at any point intervene?

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              There were attampts at intervention but they largely failed, the fact of the matter is there was and is very little legal framework for this type of shit and what does exist is wholly insufficient.

              Personally I am of the documentarian branch when it co.es to observing lolcows, observe but dont interact. If content dries up then thats generally good. Dont harrass dont bother if theyre doing something illegal collect evidence and hand it over to the police, if the police do nothing then you can break them. Serisouly imagine if folks did to the Zoosadists what they did to Chris-Chan.

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    Decades upon decades of progress are going to be gone by the end of this.

    We’ll spend the rest of our lives living in a system slowly being rebuilt, if we even get that lucky.

    There goes our futures. And we voted for it.

    Truly a shit nation full of shit people.

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      B-bu-but grandstanding uncommitted Jill Steiners told me not to worry and they’re all the same though!!?

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          Dude literally parroted the IDF and shut down any actual war crimes investigation. He was very decisive, in the wrong way.

          He bears culpability for Trump winning for two reasons. Because it’s idiotic to expect the key Arab American demographic in Michigan, a key battleground state, to vote for a pro Gaza Genocide party. And because he didn’t know when to get out of the way. He tried to hold on for so long the Democrats couldn’t run a primary or actual campaign.

          Biden’s legacy is death and Trump’s return.

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            No no no, the culpability is 100% with the American people. They had two options: the dude who agrees with everything the IDF says and does and the dude that goes far beyond the Israeli far right wildest dreams. There was no other option. It was a choice between a bad sandwich and a pile of shit and people focused on how the sandwich age and lack of caviar. Enjoy the shit! Maybe you can have some more at Trump Gaza Resort.

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                Blame the people for the candidate the people elected? After half the world warned about him for 8 years? How could I!

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                  That might hold water if the Democrats hadn’t made the same warnings about every Republican since Reagan.

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      Yes, but the libruls made them do this, because woke/dei/crt and the trans. The amount of actual TDS (transphobic derangement syndrome) out there is something to behold.

      The crazies are obsessed with trans and other bullshit that has no impact on their lives (b-roll of migrant caravans, poor people living high on the hog on steak and lobster, etc) that they are completely willing to end democracy over it. Not even fucking kidding. It’s one thing when you see the elites saying democracy is over, it needs to be shunted aside so they can rule, it’s quite another when they have convinced a lot of stupid peasants to say the same kind of shit. As if the peasants’ lives won’t be remarkably worse under what the elites have planned…

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      Most of them are just caught in the gears of history. It’s not as if voting was ever mandatory or generally made available to the working class.

      But yes, a nation asleep at the wheel for the most part. It’s such a pity.

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    If industrialists can pollute wherever they want, we should be allowed to live wherever we want. Private property is just a regulation at the end of the day.

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    Remember that we’re not allowed to call for violence, but it’s okay when Elon does things like this, because allowing industry to poison whole towns isn’t violence, it’s just capitalism.

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      Sharing the names of Musk’s helpers? Not okay.

      Letting nuclear plants operate in a way that risks big swaths of the country uninhabitable? Totally cool.

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    My power company fucked up my autopay, they then preceeded to not tell me, then they shut off my power without a note or an in person heads up, leaving it indistinguishable from a regular outage until it was dark and my neighbors lights turned on and their billing department was closed for the night. In February.

    I’m saying this because all this was illegal thanks to regulations. I reported it to the government because it was danger, irresponsible, and a dick move. I think a lot of people think of regulations as stuff like wheelchair ramps and no knowingly giving entire towns cancer, but it’s also shit like this, that you have to tell people that you shut off their power for non-payment and warn them before you do so they don’t have to spend a night eating takeout by candlelight for no reason.

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    Side note, Im still not buying this “Worlds richest man” Label.

    I believe that title still belongs to Vladimir Putin. his wealth is not published though. He Robbed a vast nation blind to the point that he is a living god in Russia.

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        I think its less of a master giving orders to a dog dynamic, and More of a “I’ll have mine, you have yours” dynamic.

        I still dont know if they are fucking crazy enough to try it. but this is whats in the back of my mind with this aggressive and jingoistic rhetoric against Canada, the EU, and Ukraine.

        America may have stepped down from the stage of the Free world, and the Free world may very well be finished. but whats left of it still has nuclear weapons.

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      He mostly lives off debt with tesla being the collateral. Of tesla shares tank hes going to get margin called so to speak

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      I’ve been reading for 20+ years that the real richest in the world are oil barons in the middle east. I believe a few people are projected to have up to a trillion dollars in assets/wealth etc, but they aren’t celebs or post about it via publicly traded organisations etc.

      Who knows though

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    He thinks we’re probably living in a simulation so logically killing people wouldn’t be morally wrong to him.