• paddirn@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    I think it happens all over and sometimes it really kind of depends on how long your argument is and the general impression people get from the first part of it. If you’re making a devil’s advocate argument in the first part, but then the twist comes later on, people are going to think your first devil’s advocate argument is the gist of it and downvote you based on that alone without getting into the nitty gritty. If people can form a knee-jerk reaction within the first few seconds of reading your post, they will, nuance gets lost.

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      I tend to leave really long comments, sometimes with a bit of raw information, so I see how that can be the case. Some communities like reading all the way trough, but I’m pretty sure that in some places, they don’t even read my username, just vote based on my avatar.

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    It’s also a lot of bots. They are here too. For example, just say China plus something negative about them, in a thread about China. Easiest downvoted one can get. Make sure it’s a fact and not whataboutism, to avoid contaminating the test.

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    Just ignore up and down votes. They do not matter at all. If someone or a group don’t like your comment, well that’s a them problem. It should have no bearing on your life what so ever.

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      The votes still represent something in my opinion, that’s why they’re there. And I really don’t like it when I spend time writing, sometimes researching, formatting and somebody just says „no, this is shit” without even reading the first sentence, because they can just do that.

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      It does make you wonder if some of the instances were onto something with getting rid of the downvote button. They say it promotes discussion over just downvoting without any information as to why it was bad.

      The flip side would be that it allows misinformation to not be shown as such as evidently.

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        I don’t think that getting rid of downvotes is a good idea, it’s a great tool, just a lot of people use it incorrectly

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        You seem to be pretty up voted on a regular basis except a few comments. In my humble opinion, most of them would not be explained by a specific reddit hive mind but rather classic moral panics. I mean, I’ve been campaigning my whole life for prison reform/abolition and that’s the typical kind of reactions I’ve got… irl. I suppose that’s just what you usually get when saying something which deviates from a specific state of public opinion.

        Not trying to play ackshually, but there doesn’t seem to be anything wrong with your posts/comments, imo.

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    POV : you say something moderately supportive of Palestine in the worldnews subreddit

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    My dude, there are plenty of actual automated bots on Reddit. IIRC when Reddit cracked down hard on bot accounts recently, over half of users and participation in many subreddits also decreased. That alone says that there is artificial engagement on Reddit rather than genuine human interaction (which vindicates the dead Internet theory). It explains a lot as to why a very innocent and neutral comment somehow gets a downvote: they are just bots downvoting.

    Even here in Lemmy, there are downvotes on the same benign comments and no explanation as to why someone would disagree. But even if the comment is political in nature, there are downvotes but no feedback as to why one would disagree. There is a post on c/climate on European Greens calling for Jill Stein not to run for US presidential elections because she would just siphon the votes from liberals and progressives even though she will not win. And many comments on that post are getting half or a third of downvotes, but there are no accompanying disagreeing comments to explain the disagreement. It is clear that there are bots in that post who are trying to downplay the repercussions of Stein running to US elections and democracy.

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      Some of us downvote without leaving a comment, that in and of itself isn’t indicative of bot activity.

      A tap of a vote is low effort and easy.

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        I know some people down vote and don’t discuss, but it’s very strange in a political discussion when you don’t get a pushback but getting so many downvotes.

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          Id expect more voting and less comments in political posts just because people may want to avoid direct conflict with other users. I’m iffy on the whole up/down thing in general though.