Automated license plate readers (ALPRs) aren’t just helping police investigate crimes anymore. They’re now being used to flag drivers for supposedly “suspicious” driving patterns.

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    Combining a car’s movement behaviour via ANPR/ALPR with known drug routes has been going on for over a decade. This is AI in the data science and pattern recognition sense and not the media hyped LLM sense

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    This is exactly why law enforcement using a nationwide surveillance system constantly gathering evidence on everyone passing one of their cameras is a 4th amendment violation.

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      Bingo. Any reasonable judge would toss these cases for not having probable cause.

      This also seems like easy legislation at the federal level. “Driving patterns gleaned from the use of an ALPR system does not, by itself, constitute probable cause.”

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      In a country that has been building its infrastructure around personal automobiles for decades, we cannot make that necessary function of daily life be an automatic consent to targeted analysis.

      I get that cameras pointed at intersections and highways are here to stay. That means there will be records of what happens in public places that can be analyzed for a certain person’s movements once there’s a warrant.

      That’s the whole fucking point of warrants and 4th amendment protections. Just because the technical ability exists to analyze somebody’s Personally Indentifiable Information doesn’t mean you just get to do it. Just like you don’t get to listen to any phone call you want, or plant bugs and trackers on everybody you are curious. (A group of three-letter agencies enters the chat, lol)

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    Not a new problem unfortunately.

    Among the things courts or cops have deemed “suspicious”:

    Booking a nonstop flight

    Booking a flight with a layover

    Traveling alone

    Traveling with a companion

    People who appear nervous

    People who appear ?too calm?

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      You left off these ones from the list which are pretty funny

      Being the first person off a plane

      Being the last person off a plane

      Someone authorities believe has tried to blend in to the middle of exiting passengers’

      So… getting off a plane then.

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      Simple throughline, two options: “Bad Vibes” aka being a minority in America or “I need to impress my superior, and the best thing i could do would be whatever sherlock holmes does, but im an idiot so ill just roll the dice on the next guy and hope im right and get promoted :)”

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    The Wired article linked by the OP article mentions visiting multiple banks in a week as suspicious behavior that gets flagged… if we had a car (assuming it needs a license plate to attach to you and look up info), that would have pinged my spouse last week. Stupid fucks live in such ivory towers that they’ve never had a bank run out of quarters for the washing machine.

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    If they’re going to keep doing ALPR cameras, license plates should be abolished, as they are compelled speech.

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      Need a Bobby Tables style license plate.

      Heh, I put the text of the joke in this post, but lemmy wouldn’t let me submit. Let’s hope the ALPR guys aren’t as careful lol.

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    Not driving and not having kids are two things you can do to exempt yourself from a world of possible legal issues.

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        This one always gets me, walking home from the bar drunk (to avoid driving) can get you thrown in prison, or shot. At least in the US.

        Honestly a cop would give you less hassle if you drove home drunk.

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          There’s a video where a guy is just walking home from his shift and gets wellness checked by a passing trooper into being arrested.

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          The odds of anyone getting shot walking down the street are infinitesimal. Your odds of getting flattened by a car however…