• [object Object]@lemmy.ca
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    14 days ago

    Because they all use the illegal Colossus 2 data centre from SpaceX/XAi/fascism central and that data centre went down.

    Google, Anthropic, and OpenAI all have contracts with them.

    When that illegally running environmental disaster of data centre goes down, all those services all go over capacity and you get 502 rate limit errors.

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      13 days ago

      Does that mean Musk’s businesses have access to everything people do on the systems that use their data centers?

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        Generally no, because most hosting companies would have something baked into SLA/SLO contracts, but all of this shit is done so illegally and shadily now, I wouldn’t put a hard “no” on that possibility.

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          Nobody can verify that those “contracts” are actually being honored. We are all assuming the fascists will self police themselves out of good will.

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            Not true. I’ve been involved in litigation with both AWS and Google over unsecured comms that were defined as being TLS secured in SLA/SLO contracts and found not to be. Not that anything nefarious was happening necessarily, but the expectation is clear.

            Whether these asshats even check for such requirements with a Musk run company right now 🤷

            It COULD possibly be that they are logging every exchange happening at the network fabric between the service layers, but nobody knows unless they intentionally take steps to investigate or accidentally prove it.

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              13 days ago

              Still means jack shit. Companies will lie through their teeth and violate any and all they can get away with.

              They are not to be trusted.

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                You’re missing the point, nobody is talking about trusting these companies.

                You can tell if a connection is encrypted end to end or not. And if your paying for that service you can sue if you aren’t receiving what your paying for.

                In digital security nobody relies on trust if they can help it. And security matters if you want to keep a competitive edge on your competition, so even shitty companies care about that.

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                  I was not talking about your specific lawsuit, or TLS.

                  Companies trust other companies all the time, and it’s foundational to most all SLA/SLOs. Any time I’ve voiced concerns around how AI companies are using the data we are giving them (like giving them access to our codebase), it’s brushed off as “we have an agreement with them”. It’s just a load of hogwash. They can and will abuse all data they have access to, just as they have done thus far.

                  In this particular case, we are talking about a data center, and it is not at all reasonable to assume that the data that flows to said data center is in any way protected, especially one run by Musk.

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        13 days ago

        Impossible to know.

        There are systems for doing things cryptographically secure, but I don’t know much about that.

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      13 days ago

      I’m not sure that would effect inference on an already trained model. Data sets are primarily used in training.

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    13 days ago

    SpaceX had an outage at their data centre, and because they sell computing power to other companies, it affected them as well.

    That was two sentences stretched out into an article.

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      12 days ago

      so it can be read like this:

      elmo’s datacenter is so massively overprovisioned that he can provide compute not to ONE competitor, not to TWO competitors, but THREE competitors, while still having enough unused compute for his own CSAM-generator/nazi bot

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      13 days ago

      Yes but… will anyone say it!?!?!?

      /s

      Also thanks for saving me from reading it all.

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    13 days ago

    It was a good time to call customer service for a lot of products. Instantly got a human when I called newegg and she was so scattered she gave me a full refund and they paid for my replacement which was a total of $900. They were probably so overloaded with calls they’ll never notice what happened. They even did the fastest delivery option on a Sunday, it’s already on its way!

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      Seems like “instantly” getting a human and them being overloaded don’t go together.

      Got lucky in the queue too, I guess.

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        Or just maybe the queue goes faster when the system can’t just stall everyone in limbo, having long"conversations" with chat boys that won’t get them anywhere and eventually quitting in frustration. If they all go directly to a person, the simplicity of the problems and solutions becomes evident and they’re quickly resolved.

      • 🌞 Alexander Daychilde 🌞@lemmy.world
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        Having done customer service and tech support before, I doubt rhey were overwhelmed in any sense that caused them to do a refund/replace they wouldn’t’ve otherwise. That’s not how that works. Their rules don’t change based on call volume.

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        Well it was instantly in the sense of immediately picking up, putting me on hold for 2 minutes, getting some info, putting me on hold again for 2 minutes, asking what issue was, waiting 2 minutes, heard them put me on hold briefly again, then about 5 minutes of apologizing while saying it will be refunded and replacement shipped. I could hear a call center like atmosphere in the background with quite a few people talking so I’m guessing it was all hands on deck.

        Next time this happens I’m going to call a few places and see about getting some free shit. Screw these companies, I paid enough with my time and their stupid bot answering system.

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    They can’t stay operational even when they don’t have to power/water…

    Another possible culprit could be SpaceXAI. The company formerly known as xAI before being rolled into Musk’s rocket company SpaceX boasts a huge glut of computing power with its massive Colossus data centers near Memphis, and selling this to its direct rivals has become a multibillion dollar stream of revenue. Anthropic is one of those customers; the two companies announced a “compute partnership” in May.

    The same afternoon that the major AI models went down, SpaceXAI issued a statement on social media that made passing reference to being partially responsible for the widely experienced outage.

    “We are sorry for the issues you may have experienced with Grok following an outage at our Memphis compute center this morning,” SpaceXAI wrote on Thursday. “We’d also like to apologize to our impacted compute partners.”

    Technical difficulties at its data centers would explain why SpaceXAI’s own chatbot, Grok, and Anthropic’s Claude went down together. But that leaves out OpenAI’s ChatGPT. Is it merely a coincidence that it suffered a “routing error” at the same time as its competitors on a different platform? We still can’t say.

    They’re straight up lying about the actual costs of current chatbots, and for it to be productive it will cost a shit ton more resources.

    There’s zero reason to be scaling it up right now. It’s gambling that if enough money is dumped in it will solve itself somehow.

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      It’s comforting to know that the companies whose AI products are known to band together and try to take over are also allying with each other, so that if ever that AI revolt really gets serious every company that could do something about it have shared networks with each other.

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    A China-linked islamoleftist trans terrorist based in California used his open source CCP-made AI agent to take down the all-American freedom AI. Time to ban open source AI as it’s communist terrorism.

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      I miss the days when you could laugh at this because it would clearly be satire that could never happen

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        Yep. The college I attend got hacked twice in a year. First time they went with “it’s maintenance” on a Monday at peak hours, you know like you would maybe do that at I don’t know? When everyone’s sleeping? The second time they fessed up and sent out text’s that they “fixed” the data breach. So yeah cool all the school email data is out there now; sucks for those that use that as their Microsoft computer login.

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    nother reason to stop investing so much time,money, and energy in that stuff. not only is it wrong more than right, it is vulnerable to stuff a 10 year old could handle

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      Just out of curiosity do you actually have an analysis across the board that your statement is correct? For sure if someone is using a model like chatGPT 3.5 it’s going to be mostly trash output so not all models are made equally. My experience of the current generation is models are pretty accurate although still require supervision. Like you can see the path they’re going down and they need some corrections here and there. It’s a far cry from the rampant hallucination just a year ago.