• lyralycan@sh.itjust.works
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    2 months ago

    I never forget that the US gov created Al Qaeda by indiscriminately blowing up people in the Middle-East, and some of the murdered were friends & family of the three founders of the group. Cause and effect. If my friends and family get bombed for existing I’d also become a vengeful terrorist who spends a decade growing more powerful by connecting with other victims of state murder. I just like to think I’d be able to retaliate on the ones responsible and there to be no innocent casualties.

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      … The US created Al Qaeda by giving them weapons to fight the Russians for them, then abandoning them when they won at massive personal cost… They literally armed and funded Osama Bin Laden through Pakistan… That part isn’t even a conspiracy theory.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegations_of_CIA_assistance_to_Osama_bin_Laden

      The only “alleged” part is that the CIA didn’t DIRECTLY fund bin Laden… Only through Pakistan’s ISI (CIA equivalent)…

      Like I get the indirect creating your enemies through causing suffering and destruction in other nations. Like that’s valid for ISIS for example. But Al Qaida literally wouldn’t have existed without American money.

  • BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    2 months ago

    Hot take incoming.

    Turns out, Bin Laden was right, we should have not become so deeply invested in the middle east like we have and should have left it. Militarily and essentially colonialism of territory for oil.

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      The oil is just a nice bonus. What really drives the US wars are the weapons and ammunition sales

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      Not only was he right, but Bin Laden won, even if it killed him. The attack on 9/11 pulled out all the stops on ignorance, xenophobia, evangelicals in politics, the surveillance State, right-wing nationalism, and so much more. We wasted trillions of dollars on wars.

      The attack was a slow burn that took 20 years to collapse an “empire.”

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    2 months ago

    I never believed in any of the conspiracy theories around this.

    But now with everything out about how much Israel controls everything in the U.S.

    It’s made me reconsider this event as an IDF false flag operation.

    Im not saying I believe it fully. I’m saying I’m now considering it a possibility.

    As a regular citizen, I just don’t think I have access to, nor an expert understanding of the evidence to be able to make any solid conclusions.

    I’m just saying it does follow their pattern of behavior. And it sure did benefit them immensely.

    This event is a large factor in the current war with Iran and tensions/hostility with Muslim states in the Middle East.

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      2 months ago

      There are plenty of conspiracy theories. There is also is a undeniable conspiracy. This is that the US used the events of 9/11 to expand a war on people who had nothing to do with it and commit to murdering and torturing innocents.

  • BeBopALouie@lemmy.ca
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    2 months ago

    The lessons learned during the second world war, I will never forget. Unfortunately, everybody else has seemed to have forgotten.

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    I’ll never forget how my country let this happen, just so the Nazis I’m sorry Republicans can pass mass surveillance on we the people

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      It doesn’t have the same ring, you know? And 911 being the emergency number here in the US, it was a real double whammy for us way back then.