• barnaclebutt@lemmy.world
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    9 hours ago

    I’m 14 and this is deep bullshit. There are different levels of processed food. Nobody is against cooking your food. Countless studies demonstrate that the less processed your food is, the healthier it is for you.

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      8 hours ago

      I am not trying to invalidate you. I’m 33 and I think about how something is processed. Though, it’s prudent to keep in mind that the further you think about how something is processed, you will eventually come to the realizations about the levels of processing. For example: You could make your own olive, grape and peanut oil with less processing or more depending on how you do it.

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      8 hours ago

      The misunderstanding, and rightly, the confusion, comes like you said from the level of processing. Cooking is considered processing - so these words have little value in reality as they mean different things for different people

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        No there’s value to what the commenter said… but like I said there also has to be some kind of thought into how you are processing because then the varying levels of processing matter. Like you said cooking is considered processing, while I gave the example of making a food oil.

        How you cook determines the amount of processing you will have to apply. How I make a food oil will determine the amount of processing I will need to apply.

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    18 hours ago

    Norman Borlaug developed wheat that can be grown in all kinds of climates temperatures and environments on Earth. It is by definition a genetically modified organism that helped alleviate starvation for billions of people since its creation.

    Many people say that the most important person in human history is Jesus Christ, but I believe it is Norman Borlaug.

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      Thank god the global South has so many white saviours.

      Borlaug quite litterally paved the way for industrialized agriculture in countries like India with all the devastating social and environmental effects that come with it.

      But sure there were severe famines before Borlaug came, all their own fault.

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        This is a textbook example of arguing in bad faith.

        I said Norman Borlaug’s work helped alleviate starvation for billions of people. Somehow you turned that into “white savior,” industrial agriculture, and the absurd claim that I think pre-Green Revolution famines were “all their own fault.” I didn’t say any of those things. You invented an argument because you couldn’t address the one I actually made.

        Borlaug’s contribution stands on its own. His research dramatically increased crop yields and helped prevent catastrophic famine. That isn’t a matter of opinion, it’s one of the most well-documented humanitarian achievements of the 20th century.

        You’re also trying to pin every downstream consequence of industrial agriculture on one scientist, as though he personally designed decades of government policy, farming practices, and corporate incentives. That’s a ridiculous standard. By that logic, every inventor is responsible for every misuse or unintended consequence of their invention forever.

        If you want to discuss the environmental tradeoffs of the Green Revolution, that’s a legitimate conversation. But that’s not what you did. Instead, you injected race into a discussion where it wasn’t relevant, built a straw man out of things I never said, and then congratulated yourself for knocking it down.

        If your argument requires inventing my position before you can refute it, maybe your argument isn’t as strong as you think it is.

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          1 hour ago

          That’s a whole mouthful from somebody who (checks notes) started off with some messianic comparisons.

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            You are, once again, introducing things that were never part of the discussion and making assumptions about what I was or wasn’t saying. Nothing I said was messianic in any way, shape, or form, nor did I bring anything related to that into the conversation.

            Please stop.

            If this is the kind of discourse you want to have, arguing against things that were never said and inventing positions for the other person to defend, there are plenty of flat Earth videos on YouTube where that style of reasoning will fit right in.

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    The sad thing is - we COULD produce processed foods designed for our health. We just choose not to. The more its processed, the more room there is for profit margin improving adjustments.

    (Meanwhile we evolved to eat not-ultraprocessed food so obviously that’s best for us.)

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      The sad thing is - we COULD produce processed foods designed for our health. We just choose not to.

      Yes, mostly.

      (Meanwhile we evolved to eat not-ultraprocessed food so obviously that’s best for us.)

      Not how this works. Evolution cares about us procreating and spreading our genes, not living long healthy lives. Hence there being plenty animals that die after having children. “We evolved to” just means it won’t kill us quickly, not that it is healthy long term.

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    In all seriousness, shortening “organically grown” to “organic” is quite stupid since all food is organic, but not all food is organically grown.

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    Why can’t we have human kibbles if they have for cats and dogs. They keep selling it as the only healthy option.

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    Idk man, them food scientists been up to some strange shit out at the farm and at the food processing plant for like a century now and things have gotten out of hand a little.

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        I’m not sure the goal has been to make the food healthy… I’m pretty sure the goal has only been to maximize profits and decrease costs within the bounds of whatever is considered legal (including lobbying to maintain legality).

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    no processed food can beat the absolute genious design of the raspberry. easy to grab, clear information whether it’s ripe or not, visually appealing, tastes wonderful.