• BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    I am a good person and I will do what it takes to protect marginalized people from oppression and erasure. The morale high ground doesn’t matter when they want to kill millions.

  • The Picard Maneuver@lemmy.worldM
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    I see lots of comments arguing about whether bad things should happen to bad people and missing the point that it’s criticizing the convenient, self-serving rationalization of doing bad things to [out-group enemy] going on.

  • Bluedragon012@lemmy.world
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    Oh for me, the literal nazis, child rapists, and Inmorally rich “leaders” are like dogs with rabies, a disease. There is no changing them. It is imparative that we stop them before they hurt more. If we can put down ol’ yeller, we can kill this evil.

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      literal nazis

      WWII was 80 years ago, are there any literal Nazis alive?

      Or is this one of the ‘I don’t know what literal means and also I’ll decide who is a Nazi and deserves death’ kind of thing?

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          Yes, I know what Nazis are.

          It was a rhetorical question, not a ChatGPT prompt for information.

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            If you don’t know there are real Nazi followers and fascism out there right now, not 80 years ago, but right now, I do not think you know what Nazis are. I also do not think you know what a “rhetorical question” is.

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              I also do not think you know what a “rhetorical question” is.

              Well, let me demonstrate:

              You know what I think better than I do?

              You know, the image in the OP is not an aspirational goal, right?

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                I think you’re ignorant to the reality around you. I think OPs image is a strawman made by a centrist that also does not understand the reality of the situation.

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          Is that your alt? If not then you have no idea what they meant.

          There are many people on social media who’s kneejerk reaction is to label things “nazi” (see the OP’s image), or to imply that someone is doing favors for nazis, when they perceive that they’re being disagreed with. It’s kind of the topic of this whole post.

          My response is a rhetorical question, not a request for information and their reply would show if they are that kind of reactionary person.

          I didn’t reply to you and I didn’t mistake the reply box for a search engine, so linking me Wikipedia pages and suggesting that I’m doing favors for nazis means that you both missed the point and are the kind of reactionary outrage junkie that’s depicted in the OP.

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            I linked them for you because you don’t know what a Nazi is, because you said literal Nazis aren’t alive today.

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                Nope, just making sure you understand that literal Nazis do, in fact, exist today. If you weren’t posting rhetorical questions that implied you didn’t believe they don’t, then I wouldn’t have shared links with you to help you understand they do.

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          The worst kind, right after all of the rest of them (and the Dutch Nazis, with their bike paths and tiki torches).

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          Zionists are ambitious, trying to genocide so hard that people forget about the Nazis.

          Netanyahu doesn’t really have the punchiness of “Hitler”, so they need to work on that part. His gun probably tastes the same, so there’s that.

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        Would argue, but know what you are doing. So just replace the word nazi with fascist and maybe youll understand. If not, you’ll find out the hard way.

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    right, but they have been proven to be demonstrably evil. Or are we now sympathetic to cancer? If they want to be treated like people they should start acting like it. Just because one is a pacifist, does not mean they shouldn’t defend themself

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      Who is “they”? Who are you talking about and how are you certain that’s who OP is talking about?

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    90% of this thread: “nuh uh! I’m a good person and should be allowed to kill all those evil, bad cops and billionaire and nazis”

    Also 90% of this thread: would piss their pants if given a gun and told to shoot another human being, no matter how evil they knew they were.

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      Pretty sure this is a subset of the freedom vs liberty concept. Just cause you technically have the freedom to take an action doesn’t mean you have the social, mental, or economic liberty to act apon it.

      Hell I know damned well I can act on my violent impulses but even for myself I would have to work myself into a state where my social conditioning wouldn’t be a factor anymore. Pretty damned hard to override mental restraints you’ve had built up since you were nine, though I can drop into it pretty fast it’d take either me being attacked or me needing to work myself into it before hand.

      My point is most folks don’t really have the mental infrastructure required to just drop into violence on a whim, which IMO is nominally a good thing since at minimum it means most threats to oneself has been abstracted away.

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      Can one be both? Do what needs to be done, while pissing my pants and wishing that it didn’t have to be me doing it?

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      I can barely shoot pests in my backyard. I don’t know if I could shoot a nazi or oppressor

      the pests are innocent, which makes the choice hard for me. the evil people who are just clearly evil… idk how I’d react. and I hope to never know.

      but I do hope that somebody else already knows.

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    I’ll allow you to call me bad if I’m also allowed to drop billionaires, the trillionaire, selected world leaders, and most of the Epstein class in to a woodchipper. It only seems fair.

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      What is more important: considering yourself a good person, or materially benefiting the world?

      I’ll take option 2, thanks. Woodchippers! GET YOUR WOODCHIPPERS HERE!!