“Republicans are once again attempting to make Daylight Saving Time permanent, with President Donald Trump promising to lead the push to end the longstanding American practice of switching clocks twice a year.”

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    Twice a year the entire country collectively agrees the clock change is annoying, unhealthy, and pointless, and then somehow we still keep doing it.

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      This goes up for vote almost yearly at this point and fails because no one can agree on which schedule to use.

      See the rest of the comments lol.

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      I recall this had gained momentum under Biden but ultimately failed for what I can only perceive as the GOP not wanting that W to happen under the Dems.

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        From what I understand parents were freaking out about having their kids outside in the dark either before or after school, I don’t remember which. That’s the only argument against it I think I’ve ever heard.

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          Stock market. Everyone is waiting for NY to decide, because an hour shift has huge rippling effects for trading algorithms. It hasn’t happened because of $$$, not because leaders care about kids.

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          I used to wait at the bus stop in the winter at 6am when it was still pitch black out.

          It would be light before the bus got there and dark again within two hours of getting home.

          This was in Minneapolis, but I lived in the south side while going to a specialized program at North High, the other side of the city, so it wasn’t typical.

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            Anywhere in the north quarter of the continental US already has kids waiting for the bus in the dark, regardless of DST. It’s a poor argument from the get go

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              Yeah and they don’t heave time to enjoy the morning light before school anyway. It’s after school when we need the extra sun (which is still quite limited in northern states).

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            I mean you get screwed on one side of the equation anyway just because of sunlight hours shortening by the season. Hell, Alaskans have months without meaningful sunlight. And then months with basically 24h sunlight. Unless jobs were to adjust their hours with the seasons theres no way not to get screwed at some point.

            There’s an appreciable increase in cardiovascular events and car accidents when we lose an hour. For that reason alone we should stop the stupid clock changing.

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            Ah, North High. I played a bunch of flash games and watched the back half of the Naruto Chuunin Exams arc in the media center there since Cartoon Network’s website wasn’t blocked for some reason. Good times.

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          Kids waiting for the bus in the dark is the most legitimate concern when it comes to this issue.

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            That’s gonna happen anyway. There is no way to guarantee a reasonable sunrise time all year. I hate changing the clocks and like getting up after sunrise, but nothing is more dispiriting than going home from work in the dark, and there would be less of that with permanent DST.

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    The year is 2026, and the US government bickers over what time it is and minimum wage is less than eight dollars an hour and corporations are people and JUST END IT

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      Come on man, this is like the one sane thing they’re doing right now. Do you really need to talk shit about it? Advancing a bill doesn’t mean they are arguing. This is them doing something for once that isn’t insane and bad for everyone.

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      I mean just because minimum wage is too low doesn’t mean we shouldn’t change to permanent daylight savings.

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    The real answer is, the world should just run on UTC. No timezones. No confusion. When it says 12:00 UTC, it’s the same time everywhere on the planet, regardless of the sun being up or not.

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    Every health and safety expert who isn’t the Chamber of Commerce hoping for longer shopping hours agrees that permenant Standard Time would be superior and that permenant DST would be, in fact, deadly.

    Also we did permenant DST and hated it. We just hated it so much we abolished it immediately and promptly forgot we ever tried it.

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      Permanent DST is equivalent to permanent standard time with business hours moved an hour earlier. I assume that standard business hours were originally set by businesses to maximize profits—so if permanent earlier hours are better for business than permanent standard hours, why didn’t businesses set earlier hours to begin with?

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          There’s nothing preventing businesses from changing their hours over time as well (and in the long run, I suspect they’ll eventually settle on the same physical hours regardless of whether we choose standard time or permanent DST).

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    As someone who emigrated from the US to a more reasonable country, I really hate having to remember the time of year to calculate the time difference when I need to contact people in the US.

    Even though permanent DST makes more sense, I’d take either.

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      I absolutely agree that permanant DST is preferred, and am shocked that that’s the proposal here, as usually the idea is to make standard time permanant. I work in an office, so I don’t care how dark or light it is when I get up in the morning, but I’d kill for more time after work. I’ve, of course, tried to get my office to allow me to shift my schedule but that doesn’t fly of course.

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    If this goes through, we’re still on daylight time in the winter, right? Not standard time in the summer? Seasonal-affective is about a son of a bitch.

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      After years and years of this debate, I’m starting to feel like the time change is just the best compromise. Because we’re never going to satisfy the people that for some reason don’t understand that we can just start things at a different time.

    • Em Adespoton@lemmy.ca
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      In BC, Canada, it became permanent this year. Originally, the entire west coast of North America was supposed to switch at the same time. All the US states backed out.

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        I don’t think the US states backed out, they’re just stuck waiting for the legal right to switch. BC got tired of waiting for them and decided to switch on its own, as being deeply coupled with those states is now less desirable.