• bampop@lemmy.world
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    18 days ago

    “Israel treats journalism as a crime” isn’t a condemnation, it’s a gross understatement. You don’t drop bombs on criminals and then bomb Red Cross workers trying to get them out of the rubble and shoot up an ambulance taking them to hospital. It’s hard to find words to describe how deeply evil the everyday actions of Israel are and people are constantly making it sound like some mild transgression.

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    18 days ago

    Israel treats journalism as a crime,

    How about Israel treats journalists like nazis treated Jews?

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      17 days ago

      I’ve been reading a lot of sociology of how people overcome “bad times” and unsurprisingly the answer is almost always connection. As Israel is fundamentally anti-connection state due to being found on explicit exclusionary principle - it can never overcome “bad times” and will forever be in conflict until this is corrected.

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      19 days ago

      I mean, they invented a religion that places them as God’s chosen people, with a history of genocides and claiming regions backed up by that god. They wrote their stories as the victors and somehow still manage to sound like the bad guys.

      Psychopathy was probably rife in the 12’tribes and I wouldn’t be surprised if it started with their dad, Jacob the maid fucker. Actually, probably his granddad, Abraham, the guy willing to kill his son to please god.

      Either way, it’s been like this for centuries and don’t expect the country to suddenly change any time soon. The divine claim to the “land of milk and honey” has been their long-time casus belli for annihilating entire cities and civilisations + now with US protection!

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        I mean, they invented a religion that places them as God’s chosen people

        Can you name a single religion whose creators didn’t?

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          Buddhism. Gnostic Christianity. Hinduism. Probably a whole bunch more, I’m no theologian.

          The hideousflaw in the post you’re replying to isn’t that, though. It’s the idea that Israel invented Judaism, that Judaism is a monolith, that Israel is run on Jewish lines, and that Jews everywhere look to Israel for leadership.

          That’s some fucked-up thinking there. That thinking sucks.

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            Buddhism

            The ones who believe the only way to reach Nirvana is to follow the rigid steps of the Budda and no one else can enter?

            A little bit of a stretch, and they have a different idea for “god” but it’s the same general idea, just no personification

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              18 days ago

              If you meet the Buddha on the road to enlightenment, kill him.

              Does that sound like following the rigid steps of the Buddha is a tenet of Buddhism?

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      19 days ago

      A whole damn country full of psychopaths?

      The current government has cancelled four elections in a row because literally anyone else would easily win…

      And the period before Bibi was six years of political upheaval.

      Blaming all of Israel for Bibi is like blaming all of America for trump.

      Even if those countries were actually fair democracies that doesn’t mean everyone agrees with their government

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        On the other hand the responses of Israelis in opinion polls are not encouraging. From last July:

        Personal response to the reports from Gaza: From examining the conduct of the state, we moved to a more personal question, asking: “To what extent are you personally troubled or not troubled by the reports of famine and suffering among the Palestinian population in Gaza?” A very large majority of Jewish respondents reported that they are not so troubled or not at all troubled personally by events in Gaza (79%), while the majority of Arabs said that they are very troubled or somewhat troubled (86%).

        In the Jewish sample, we found no difference by gender (with 80% of women and 78% of men not troubled), while in the Arab sample we found that women are more troubled than men by the situation in Gaza (women, 92%; men, 80%).

        https://en.idi.org.il/articles/60357

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          Any time an opinion survey gives 4 options with no neutral answer and then lumps the responses into two categories…

          A little alarm bell should go off in your head.

          There’s also the last part of that section:

          On this question as well, we found a much greater degree of concern on the Left for the suffering and hunger in Gaza than in the Center and on the Right.

          And now we’re getting I to how Bibi’s repeated cancelation of elections and open immigration for hard right e tremists and virtually no one else to juice those numbers.

          I couldn’t find a link to the poll, but it could be the vast majority of that 79% are effected by the standard psychological effects of how that survey was set up that anyone that stumbled past a grad level statistical analysis lecture in a drunken stupor would notice…

          In fact, that set off so many of my alarm bells, I took two seconds to click the “about” section, see the guy running it also runs Home Depot, rembered how pro-Israel they are and even found you a source…

          https://brusselsmorning.com/does-home-depot-back-israel-role-of-co-founder-bernie-marcus/77666/

          You fell for propaganda…

          They’re intentionally doing surveys that overstate Bibi’s support bro.

          You think you’re hurting them, but you’re doing what Israel wants right now, you’re spreading their propaganda unintentionally…

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            18 days ago

            Hey thanks for doing that critical investigation. Although I posted propaganda and that wasn’t smart of me, It’s good to know those numbers are likely a misrepresentation and Israelis may not be as thoroughly extreme as that report makes them look.

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    17 days ago

    Israel: “Zero fucks given, as long as the US gives us everything we want, we will continue to kill whomever we want.”

    The US (not just Donald Trump) has been enabling genocide, ethnic cleansing, and human rights abuses for decades.

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    19 days ago

    Israelis are the inventors of the “double tap” tactic to take out rescue workers, medical workers, and even more civilians, the people who are helping. It’s absolutely sick. Oh and Obama utilized and popularized this tactic during his regime during which he dropped over 26,000 bombs on seven different countries (but don’t let the “vote blue no matter who” crowd know or they’ll attack me).

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    18 days ago

    Did you also make a frowni face and extend their index finger? It’s very important when you condemn these inhumane ugly behaviours

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    19 days ago

    Nuke Israel. Seriously. Put it on bumper stickers. Make it some kind of new age kids slang. I would love to see what we can do if they redirect dipshit MAGAt rage at Israel