Seems kind of logical that it might be less of a thing? Or does it just take different forms?

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    They will certainly have a harder time judging people by their skin color.

    However many racist people aren’t actually confronted with “foreigners” a lot. So I guess blind people can perfectly be racist about someone’s accent or form racist opinions just by the discourse around them and the news they consume.

    Babies aren’t born racist, it’s something you learn. So my guess is blind people are pretty close to the average, maybe a little less.

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      You should read more studies on babies. They absolutely do have innate bias. Your post screams “I’m just guessing”

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        The post doesn’t scream “I’m guessing”, it says it.

        Can you point me to a study showing babies are racist then?

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          Go read ncbi, it’s a trivial search… Babies as young as 3 months prefer own race, and children as young as 2-3 exhibit doll preference and attribute more good attributes to white dolls. Racism and sameness grouping starts very very early and is not entirely socially learned… Its basis is innate and instinctual.

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            Wait, even if the baby is raised by a diverse set of people? Or they just prefer what they are exposed to regularly?

            I can easily imagine tribalism being easy to fall into - little kids love sorting things into categories - but can’t really see any biological benefits at all to racism, can’t imagine why it would be innate?

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              Humans have a complex history of great community, but also we kill other humans… A lot. Others are dangerous by default.

              Why young children assign better attributes to some dolls regardless of their own culture may be an open question, but colors likely have their own bouba/Kiki effect.

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                Not sure about the Bouba/Kiki effect. It could be a thing, although it’d surprise me. 2-3 year olds already learned a lot from their parents. 3 month olds are most likely to be less primed by their parents, and a bias towards their own race is not very surprising and doesn’t imply racism imo.

                I didn’t find a study, and also I’m assuming you’re talking about the US Gov NCBI, which I’m skeptical towards these days, since Trump declared DEI illegal.

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    Another way this question might be phrased is: is race only the color of skin?

    And we know the answer: no! The concept of race (developed by racists) is more cultural than biological (in fact, there is no such thing as a biologically real race, it’s a bit of a myth).

    Blind people are just as capable of holding bigoted and biased attitudes against people they hear as non-white, or smell as non-white, etc. Visual cues are not the only way someone identifies another’s class, race, ethnicity, etc. Racist attitudes are perpetuated against job applicants on the basis of whether a name sounds white or not, without ever seeing the candidate in person. A blind person is just as capable of that racism as a sighted person.

    I knew someone who wasn’t even blind who was obsessed about the smell of Indian people and who would forbid her family from eating Indian food in her home to avoid the smell, etc.

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      Could they have had an aversion to some spice? Indian foods are usually spiced more intensively and some can linger.

      Even the smell of Indian people starts with a truth: garlic and other spices can linger on the skin and even be excreted from pores. My ex-father-in-law (not Indian) really had this problem with garlic. We all do to some extent, but he’d smell strongly of it for days

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        She wasn’t bothered by the smell of these spices until she became a house cleaner and she had to clean an Indian household, and I guess there might have been some resentment about this or inferiority issues? She generalized an aversion to the smells and associations of Indian people from there (but to the extent that I personally felt was racist and probably related to self-esteem issues).

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    I dunno man… I saw this documentary once about a blind adopted black kid from the South. Actually leader of the klan. No one dare to tell him he was black. He was as racist as they come. He eventually committed suicide to have one less n** in the community. A very unkind fellow that went by the name of Clayton Bigsby,

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    No input on the query. The question just reminds me of Chapelle’s Clayton Bigsby sketch

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    I recall an episode of the TV sitcom “Becker”. A blind character meets another blind person and they date and start to hit it off, but when she discovers that he is black, she decides to break up.

    This certainly doesn’t tell anything about statistics in the real world, but can give an idea into how racism can still be prevalent amongst the blind.

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    I wouldn’t think it would make much of a difference. The thing that breaks people out of prejudice is interacting with people from different backgrounds, the most bigoted people I’ve ever met were all people who were proud they didn’t travel.

    Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one’s lifetime.

    Mark Twain