(TikTok screencap)

  • Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    37
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    23 days ago

    There’s one of these in a shopping center around me. I flip it off every time I see it.

    I mean, I deliberately drive near it, stop, roll down my window, put my arm out, and flip it off very intentionally.

    I don’t care if it knows me. I’ve made no secret of my hatred for authoritarianism throughout my life. I’ve gone to more protests than I can count. Besides, if authorities really wanted to do something to me, they’d readily make things up anyway. They don’t need an excuse, so I might as well express myself.

    This shit is dystopian as fuck and every time I see it or it blasts out its message about us being watched, it boils my blood.

    Fuck it all. This is not okay.

  • RebekahWSD@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    20
    ·
    23 days ago

    Hate it. It’s so annoying. The stores in the area hate it because it pisses people off and they complain to the stores and them the stores are like we hate them as well but the cops put them there.

    • Sunflier@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      10
      ·
      23 days ago

      the stores are like we hate them as well but the cops put them there.

      If they’re on a store’s parkinglot, they’re trespassing if they’re there without the store’s consent. That means they can be removed.

        • Sunflier@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          6
          ·
          23 days ago

          Even if they are tenants to a lease, the doctrine of quiet enjoyment would prohibit a landlord from being able to freely agree to having police property sitting on the store’s parking lot if their lease covers the parking lot. It’s kinda like renting a house with a yard: your lease is for the house and the yard surrounding the house. A landlord cannot just come on top the lawn and start ripping it up without the tenant’s permission.

          • ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            3
            ·
            23 days ago

            A landlord cannot just come on top the lawn and start ripping it up without the tenant’s permission.

            On one hand, yes. On the other hand that’s only as enforceable as a tenant can fight it.

            In practice it happens. Unless the tenant has the resources or there’s a legal advocacy group dedicated to that specific issue, owners tend to be able to do whatever they want so long as they use the argument of ‘protecting my property’.

            The settlement and restitution just ends up something like the owner keeps their stuff there and maybe you get to terminate your lease tomorrow without being forced to pay out the whole eight remaining months of the lease. But that’s anecdotal.

            • Sunflier@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              1
              ·
              edit-2
              23 days ago

              On one hand, yes. On the other hand that’s only as enforceable as a tenant can fight it.

              Trespass to land is a tort, which means there’s the potential for monetary damages.

          • rektdeckard@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            2
            ·
            edit-2
            23 days ago

            Regardless it’s the people working at the store who don’t like it. The owner class loves this shit and hate poor people.

      • RebekahWSD@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        23 days ago

        I’m assuming the higher ups for one of the more corp stores allows them there. The people actually working the stores hate them.

        • Sunflier@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          23 days ago

          I guess that kinda depends on the business structure. Are they fully owned and operated by the main corporation? Or are they licensees of the store’s name and brand? If it’s the first one, some humdrum middle manager could do what you said. If it’s the later, those surveillance things could be trespassing.

          • RebekahWSD@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            23 days ago

            Each store has to take care of a part of the lot, but this is all secondhand info from employees working in the stores. So I’d assume one of the stores is fine with the yapping tower thing on one of their spots, even if the other stores aren’t.

      • 9tr6gyp3@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        30
        ·
        edit-2
        24 days ago

        Solar powered, wireless, remote, battery-powered, GPS tracked, overly-designed mobile CCTV/loudspeaker/strobe light trailer. This one in particular is manufactured by a company called LVT, who are one of the major manufacturers of these. They can go about 5 days with no sunshine before the batteries are depleted.

    • GreenKnight23@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      9
      arrow-down
      5
      ·
      edit-2
      23 days ago

      is this the perfect example where men can finally understand why women chose the bear?

      edit: I’m greatly amused that six cucks disliked this comment.

      • CADmonkey@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        23 days ago

        I like it. “Which do you feel safer around, a cop or a crackhead?” Should upset the wife beaters.

  • Reygle@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    5
    ·
    23 days ago

    I’m not saying anyone should do it but in the photo it appears there’s a drainage ditch nearby. It would be real shame if someone with a ski mask and a plateless truck were to relocate it there.

  • Francislewwis@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    6
    arrow-down
    3
    ·
    23 days ago

    Technology like this always brings up the balance between safety and privacy. It’s important that communities keep having open conversations about where that line should be.

    • Zink@programming.dev
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      8
      ·
      23 days ago

      It isn’t necessarily a linear correlation where you can pick the cutoff that best suits your personality and politics.

      The technology and the act of surveillance don’t just slide you up the safety/privacy slope. They carry their own risks that can REDUCE safety while still paying the privacy trade off. And it is not predictable.

      And that (plus caring about people) is why I don’t support the Leopards Eating Faces coalition even though I’m an old white educated native-born male USian.

  • Whostosay@sh.itjust.works
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    2
    ·
    23 days ago

    All it takes is giving your local crackhead five bucks, then we have less cameras and they have three meals a day.

  • abcdqfr@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    19 days ago

    But but they’re so nice to sleep under when you’re homeless or on a road trip and allergic to expending capital on motels… Just me?