As white supremacists from as far as Canada revel in intimidating Sunshine State residents, critics blast DeSantis for his silence

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    Please stop trying to rationalize with them. Please stop tolerating their hate. These people don’t care about logic or morality. The guy in the photo at the Nazi rally with the tatted face and meth teeth blames his problems on Jews. They only understand power. That’s all they know. That’s the only way they’ll be stopped.

    With that said, can some of y’all come down here to Florida? We’ve got a Nazi problem that’s getting out of control and can use some support. They’ve been here this whole time in hiding, but since the government has recently been tolerant of their intolerance, they’re coming out in pride. They’re cowards that blame their own issues on vulnerable people. They don’t blame their problems on dominant peoples or cultures in power, just the minorities. So, with enough show of strength, they’ll go back into hiding or move away to Argentina.

    Look at their little insurrection attempt. One Capitol officer misled them due to their lack of organization, and another officer fired one round. All it took was a distraction to jack up their plans and one shot for them to tuck tail and run. A coup failed due to a deception and one bullet.

    Imagine if the real Nazis would have been stopped before they built their war machine. That’s where we’re at right now. Things can get soooo much worse if we allow them time to gain more power.

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        From a distance you think is the bigoted dumbass seriously walking around in blackface? If you’re unfortunate enough to get closer the context changes but the message remains the same, bigoted dumbass.

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    I live in Portland. That shit ain’t fun. This place was and remains a magnet for chud mouthbreathers to try to start shit

    People are always like ANtiFa and NaZis are the SaMe! Violence solves nothing!

    Guess what got those assholes to stop coming into my city en masse to menace residents? Getting confronted and not being allowed to run roughshod all over the place. People fought them and doxxed those fuckers to their employers and families. There hasn’t been a notable right wing rally here in at least 2 years.

    Nazis and their ilk are by nature cowards. Thinking it’ll blow over if you ignore them does not work and emboldens them

    Edit: added link to article

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      I firmly believe that watching you guys fight them off so successfully is what got the leftists around me to actually go and get armed. Took them long enough, but I’m finally seeing a lot more leftist rifle association branches.

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    So whats the reason they aren’t immediately put in handcuffs? This shit wouldn’t fly in Germany

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      One of the reasons I love that I’m in Germany rn. You don’t get people casually joking about Nazis then laughing it off like it’s nothing. It is literally against the law, and people treat that topic with actual respect.

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      Freedom of speech. Everyone is able to be heard, even if their opinions are distasteful. It’s what the US was built on and why people can fly swastikas and wear klan hoods without being arrested.

      They can only be arrested if they commit a crime, not because their views are horrible. You can walk down the street yelling racial slurs at everyone and that’s perfectly legal as long as you aren’t being violent or inciting others to violence.

      That doesn’t mean society has to tolerate them - counter-protesting is alive and well, and Nazis have been fired from their jobs for their views. But the government can’t arrest them simply for being Nazis.

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        I mean, we also have freedom of speech here in Germany. There are (harsh) limitations around hate speech and insults but besides that you can say what you want.

        What’s also a definite no are nazi symbols. Swastikas, SS runes, nazi salutes, etc. are only ever allowed in the context of education and art (like period films and as of fairly recently, games).

        We also still do have regular day to day nazis in Germany and sadly the far right party AfD has been growing in numbers over the last few years, taking a lot of inspiration from US republicans in their talking points and rhetoric. Since July they are in a county government for the first time, having only ever been an opposition party until then.

        Germany wasn’t built on the principles of freedom (of speech) but that human dignity is inviolable. That’s Art. 1 of our constitution. Only Art. 2 then defines personal freedom.

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        Is “Jews get the rope” an incitement to violence? Because these recent rallies seem to be hitting very close to what are the commonly-accepted limits on free speech in America.

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          Is “eat the rich” or a guillotine reference a call for violence?

          You’re legally allowed to say awful shit, you just can’t act on it, or have a reasonable suspiscion that you may imminently act on it.

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    The guy in the picture definitely wouldn’t be among the first to be killed by the original Nazi Party. Absolute master race material right there.

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    Just the Disney pullout of their Orlando corporate campus has lost the state a billion in taxable spending. Add to that the cancellation of multiple large conventions and the elimination of consideration for future conventions. Thousands of other businesses, organizations and tourists are cancelling trips and avoiding Florida and this is going to add up to an enormous sum that the state will never recover.

    Lots of conservatives may be fascists, but I’d be willing to bet their attachment to their own economic comfort is stronger than their ideology. IMO Florida’s had enough of DeSantis and he is going to soon join Scott Walker in political oblivion.

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    They go where nobody is going to give them any resistance. Try come doing that shit in my neighborhood and see how it goes. We all know what we have to do to stop them. The sooner we stop bitching and whining about it and start doing it the better off we will be.

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    Hitler had a dim view of Anglos and Americans in general. He would have given these Neo Nazis a one way train ticket to the concentration camps.

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    No one is suggesting DeSantis is a neo-Nazi sympathizer.

    I get the impression that this guy might be out of touch.