Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis and the state’s top health department official are directly contradicting federal health recommendations and warning residents against getting a new COVID-19 booster, saying there’s not enough evidence it provides benefits that outweigh risks.
DeSantis, who is running for president, and Florida Surgeon General Joseph Ladapo discussed the vaccine with doctors Wednesday on a Zoom call livestreamed on X, the platform formerly known as Twitter. It repeated much of what they said a week ago during a live event in Jacksonville, in which they warned against the vaccine that the U.S. Food and Drug Administration approved and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention recommended this week.
Ladapo’s previous warnings against COVID-19 vaccines prompted a public letter from federal health agencies saying his claims were harmful to the public.
At this point, it’s just a temper tantrum.
Democrats/scientists/experts/youth are the “annoying older brother” and anything they want is “stupid.”
Lead poisoning (gasoline) really ruined a generation.
It’s kind of where that all ends up, isn’t it? They all start off with their own thing/brand/whatever, and as soon as they realize they either won’t beat Trump/are losing votes in their state/district they pivot to being the dumbest and most extreme fascist just to prove that they’re “cool” because ultimately, that’s where this game leads: the lowest common denominator.
Meanwhile, the rest of us sit and suffer.
…. Ya think he realizes, the ones that’ll listen to him…. Are also the ones that will vote for him?
The calculation is as simple as it is disgusting: If he can inspire enough turnout to more than make up for the deaths he causes, then he comes out ahead.
Didn’t work out so well for Republicans in 2022, though.
Their math ain’t adding up.
Probably shouldn’t have spent so much effort damning public education, huh?
Society progresses one funeral at a time.
He has calculated that the number of votes he would lose from recommending the vaccine is greater than the number hed lose from them dying to covid. Unfortunately for him, hes bad at math.
Florida Surgeon General who has no formal education in infectious diseases, gives advice about infectious diseases. Seriously, the guy’s medical background is “PhD in Health Policy, clinical training in internal medicine, and clinical studies for ‘weight loss, smoking cessation, and cardiovascular disease prevention among people with HIV’.”
I may as well just go to my optometrist and ask what they think about the vaccine while I’m at it. Good professionals command what they have mastery over and become supportive on that which they are not. Shitty professionals run around acting like they know everything. This guy is very much the latter.
I def misread the previous comment my response here is pointless
The dudes a piece of shit but he definitely has an M.D. from Harvard.From his wikipediaLadapo received a M.D. from Harvard Medical School and a Ph.D. in Health Policy from Harvard Graduate School of Arts and Sciences in 2008. Ladapo completed clinical training in internal medicine at Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center, a teaching hospital of Harvard Medical School.but he definitely has an M.D. from Harvard
Yeah, of Internal Medicine. Infectious diseases is a specialty of that domain for the reason that most internists hand off to specialist for specific diseases and mostly deal with generalized management. I don’t go to a gastroenterologist for hip replacement. Someone who is into family medicine ain’t my first choice for diagnosis and treatment options for something like lymphoma, I’ll likely go to a specialist who knows what the hell they’re talking about for specifically dealing with the disease and they’ll hand off notes to my PCP for generalized management. Ladapo is no different here, Internal Medicine doctors are ones that usually look at a patient and try to figure out who to send them to for specialized care and then handle general management based on the notes from specialist.
Ladapo is indeed a doctor. He’s got a domain of mastery. But that domain isn’t on infectious diseases, but instead of deferring to those who have devoted their lives to this specific domain of study, he’s just spouting off at the mouth about something in his professional career he’d refer patients off to a specialist for.
So, I find it humorous to say the least that when he was an internists that whole being held accountable for running his mouth off about things was next to nothing and routinely handed off for specialty care. But now that he’s in a political position where he can be held less accountable for BS he spouts off, he’s got no problem indicating that he’s got the answers to it all.
It’s just funny how once that accountability goes out the window, he’s less affable to defer to specialist’s wisdom.
The quip about me heading to my optometrist is going a bit extreme indeed, but still, guy has a background in knowing when to hand off to others when he’s being held accountable, and now has a background of running his damn mouth when he’s no longer being held accountable for the crap he’s saying. But that said, guy better hope to hold tight to that political career now. Making a lot noise needlessly isn’t a look most hospitals like for their residents.
Ahhh yes, I misread your comment I read infectious disease as just medical training in general.
Yeah, and Ted Cruz went to Harvard and Donald Trump went to Wharton. I’m not impressed.
“There’s no reason to think they’ll be unsafe,” Dr. Celine Gounder, an infectious disease specialist at NYU Langone Health in New York City, told NBC News. “But whether they’ll provide significantly more protection than the original vaccines? Of that I’m skeptical.”
“… could prevent 100,000 more hospitalizations each year than if only the elderly were vaccinated…”
Assuming the 100k was speaking to the US population of which there are 339M, we would be saving .0030% of the population. The CDC published adverse reaction stats across several decks such as this. To ballpark using their numbers, you can put it somewhere at around 400-500 hospitalizations for extremely adverse events with a portion of that being deaths or seriously messing the person up permanently, such as a portion of the stroke victims or some of the kids with myocarditis. It sounds like the thing people are in agreement on is for the most at risk to get it. Basically, experts in the field are weighing-in and there is a media bias to write-off even the good ones that don’t agree entirely with the government/corporate narrative. In many respects, this is a profit push. We could save .003% of the population from hospital visits in other contexts without putting 500 people at great risk. For $130 an American, you could do a lot. You could give everyone a heart monitor. You could provide mats for slippery areas around the house or provide driveway salt for the winter, etc. The reason that this is getting attention still is because of the money.
Just killing off his voter base.
Don’t interrupt your enemy while he is making a mistake
This kind of mistake will cost a lot of peoples lives. On the other hand, those people are most likely older and voting REP, so he is killing off his own base.
This is the part I really don’t get. How does ‘killing your own base’, and adding to the healthcare burden with more long covid cases, work in the long or short term? Or at all. I guess they are just thinking till '24, but we’ve got a long winter season of SARS-CoV-2, RSV, & Influenza before we get to November '24. And your right, people will die, and be disabled in greater numbers if they follow what DeSantis says.
Not to mention, this is after the party had a midterm that was historically bad and lost races by small margins. Killing their base with COVID may have very well cost them important elections, and now this idiot is doubling down on that “strategy”.
“Long Covid doesn’t exist. Get back to work.”
-republicans, probably
COVID mostly kills off the elderly.
Good thing Florida’s population is so young and spry.
Perhaps it’s his solution to the housing crisis?
You know, at this point, if you’re listening to DeSantis, go ahead, don’t get the booster. We need less people to vote for DeSantis or people like him in the future. Anyone opposed to him isn’t going to follow his advice, so this should hopefully sort itself out as time goes on.
What an absolute skid mark.
Interesting, this sort of intentional dangerous disinformation would be illegal here coming from a trusted public figure, what sort of charges will this De Santis guy be brought up on?
If there’s evidence he did it, it should be a pretty open and shut case.
LIFE SAVING MEDICINE IS WOKE.
“risks” lolololol fucking idiot Republicans
And then there’s this motherfucker, getting people killed by using the power of his governorship to spread misinformation and lies.
Dude went to Yale law school, not Yale School of medicine.
I’ll take his advice on things of a legal nature, but not medicine.
Yo trust me it’s entirely possible to go to law school and learn fucking nothing about justice or rights. Some people go in with preconceived ideas.
And I bet it happens all the time at fancy schools like Yale.
I went in basically a centrist, but with compassion for regular working people. And then you spend three years reading cases day and day out where corporations and government forces have done nothing but fuck people over.
I came out a flaming progressive with complete clarity that the billionaire class uses the law to maintain their power and destroy progress.
Maybe you go in, and you read all that shit that people do, and you think, hey this is great, I could do this too!
Then they go off and work at some corporate white shoe law firm that spends all day defending insurance companies and wage thieves. I got halfway through before I realized I could never work at one of those law firms. Many of my friends did, and they’re all rich now, but I don’t know how they sleep at night.
You ain’t wrong but you missed my point
Lmao take legal advice from Ronny LetsPokeTheMouse Desanny?
He will get it though as soon as it’s available.
…whatever, let the death cult thin their numbers some more.
