Bacon and ham sold in the UK should carry cigarette-style labels warning that chemicals in them cause bowel cancer, scientists say.
Their demand comes as they criticise successive British governments for doing “virtually nothing” to reduce the risk from nitrites in the decade since they were found to definitely cause cancer.
Saturday marks a decade since the World Health Organization in October 2015 declared processed meat declared processed meat to be carcinogenic to humans, putting it in the same category as tobacco and asbestos.
They just want to keep the bacon for themselves.
Oh boy, can’t wait to see right wing screeches about Muslim takeover of UK.
IMO every food should have cancer rating in the nutrition facts, cause it’s not black and white.
What does Muslim have to do with bacons being carcinogenic?
Look mate.
In this cold, bleak and heartless blasted hell of an existence this is one of the few genuine pleasures I have guilt free.
one of the few genuine pleasures I have guilt free.
Had. “Had” guilt free.
I’ll copy some of the answers from the WHO Q&A linked in the post:
Processed meat was classified in the same category as tobacco and asbestos, does that mean they’re equally carcinogenic?
No, processed meat has been classified in the same category as causes of cancer such as tobacco smoking and asbestos (IARC Group 1, carcinogenic to humans), but this does NOT mean that they are all equally dangerous. The IARC classifications describe the strength of the scientific evidence about an agent being a cause of cancer, rather than assessing the level of risk.
How many cancer cases per year?
According to the most recent estimates by the Global Burden of Disease Project, an independent academic research organization, about 34 000 cancer deaths per year worldwide are attributable to diets high in processed meat.
Eating red meat has not yet been established as a cause of cancer. However, if the reported associations were proven to be causal, the Global Burden of Disease Project has estimated that diets high in red meat could be responsible for 50 000 cancer deaths per year worldwide.
These numbers contrast with about 1 million cancer deaths per year globally due to tobacco smoking, 600 000 per year due to alcohol consumption, and more than 200 000 per year due to air pollution.
How much is the risk of cancer increased?
The consumption of processed meat was associated with small increases in the risk of cancer in the studies reviewed. In those studies, the risk generally increased with the amount of meat consumed. An analysis of data from 10 studies estimated that every 50 gram portion of processed meat eaten daily increases the risk of colorectal cancer by about 18%.
The cancer risk related to the consumption of red meat is more difficult to estimate because the evidence that red meat causes cancer is not as strong. However, if the association of red meat and colorectal cancer were proven to be causal, data from the same studies suggest that the risk of colorectal cancer could increase by 17% for every 100 gram portion of red meat eaten daily.
278g a day equals 100% cancer im fked thats less than a pound ive eaten that much bacon or ham in a sitting so many times
I don’t think that’s how that math works but sure
Who cares anymore, life is so depressing and the future so bleak that it doesn’t matter. By the time the average person will get cancer from bacon we’ll be dead from fascism.
dude you need to talk to someone, there’s no fascism anywhere. If you living like this day to day it must feel horrible. sorry its like that for you.
Just because you don’t live under a tyrannical government doesn’t mean others don’t as well.
i agree there is tyrannical governments, like Afghanistan with the Taliban and China with the commies in power, but im not aware of any fascist governments right now unless im wrong which i might be?
wake up and smell the nitrites
In the UK (not sure about anywhere else) you can buy bacon without Nitrates. ‘Naked Bacon’ is in sainsburys, tesco, etc. Been buying it for years.
i want the nitrates please, it tastes hell of a lot better.
I’ve gotten pizza with “uncured” bacon, ham, or sausage before. I’m not sure if the meat has no flavor or if it was the pizza tha had no flavor.
However I expect the pizza itself was worse for me than those specific ingredients
Because My grandfather cures meats without nitrates and it just tastes as good
At one point I looked into making jerky. It’s reasonable for people to do their own.
The big question is whether to use curing salts. They’re necessary if you want to be shelf stable. If you don’t use them, you need to refrigerate your jerky and it has limited shelf life, like any other food. However in that scenario, you have the advantage of fresher ingredients with a quality of your selection that may make up for it.
You don’t get that from store bought uncured meat
yeah my grandfather uses somthing else for curing his meats. he used to use curing salts but he stopped using that after the doctor told him to stop consuming so much nitrates and tbh it tastes the same to me but i know that it needs to be vaccumed packed so it doesnt spoil, and in the fridge, but thats a better trade off for nitrates.
WARNING: Bacon contains chemicals known to the UK Government to cause cancer and birth defects or other reproductive harm.
So it’s fine if I just don’t eat the bacon in the UK? Then I am safe!
If you eat in France that’s fine
Putting nitrates in the same category as fucking asbestos is literally insane.
It’s like putting a Glock and a 10,000kg bomb in the same category, it’s utterly disingenuous.
Not if the category is “causes cancer” — nor, in the case of your Glock and bomb, if the category is “can kill you”
Context matters
I never said they weren’t in the same category. To act like implying the risks of nitrates are identical to asbestos is insane and just makes people ignore these warnings.
There is a need to differentiate the level of risk because if you don’t people are going to think the 10,000kg bomb is the same danger as a Glock when in reality they abso-fucking-lutely not.
It’s disingenuous, you’re right that context matters because displaying the two as if they’re the same strips the risk assessment of its context.
I never said they weren’t in the same category
No, the fact that they are in the same category is the entire reason for your comment. Making such a claim is disingenuous… Which, if I recall, is your accusation.
To act like implying the risks of nitrates are identical to asbestos is insane
I agree. Most people here do. That’s why nobody has made such a claim.
How can you not see how putting in the same category implies the same level of harm.
I hate these fuckin reddit brained Lemmy users who intentionally misread comments just to argue some adjacent point.
Whatever if you all want pointless warning labels go for it, just know you’re not doing anything useful.
How can you not see how putting in the same category implies the same level of harm.
Because I can read
Clearly not well, reading comprehension is important
I’m not the one who has misused several words, clearly not understanding their definition.
I’m also not the one making an absurdly obvious strawman argument.
How’s that for context? lol
The category just means that there is scientific proof of carcinogenicity. The WHO states (somewhere) that it’s not to be taken to mean that bacon is as dangerous as tobacco. Of course, that’s what everyone thinks they mean, so maybe they should work on their messaging
That’s what I’m saying, putting nitrates next to hardcore carcinogens like asbestos makes the hardcore carcinogens look less harmful than they actually are.
They need to differentiate the levels of harm or else it’s just another warning that people will ignore because it’s on literally everything.
Wait what… goddamn it.
put the cancer warnings, like smoking people will still consume it.
A bunch of the stuff I buy has CA cancer warnings on it. When you start putting the warnings on common things, it makes the warnings meaningless…
Do any of the things I buy have a notable chance to cause caner? I have no fucking clue, because everything causes cancer in California.
Let me ask for fun, does toothpaste have a warning?
You know, I can’t remember any toothpaste with that warning. So, win one for us I guess! ;p
damm, i was hoping for radium toothpaste in califorina.
then again the warning would probably be so tiny we wouldn’t even be able to read it
Imagine brushing your teeth with a ‘may cause cancer’ warning. You think people would even care or just ignore it? ignorance is bliss is real
id still do it. mabye my teeth would glow.
Does that come with superpowers? I’d be brushing twice a day
no it just makes your teeth glow, but it also makes your bones brittle
so glow teeth are guaranteed? might be worth it
Well I just looked it up. Looks like nitrites are in salad. So its official, salad causes cancer. I fucking knew it. So we are going to put cigarrette style warnings on salad now, right?
Foods High in Nitrates
Nitrates are naturally occurring compounds found in various foods, particularly vegetables. They can also be added to certain processed foods. Here’s a breakdown of foods that contain nitrates:
Natural Sources of Nitrates
The majority of dietary nitrates come from vegetables. Here are some key examples:
VEGETABLE NITRATE CONTENT (PER 100G)
Spinach ~741 mg
Lettuce Varies, generally high
Beets Varies, generally high
Celery Varies, generally high
Carrots Varies, generally high
Cabbage Varies, generally high
Radishes Varies, generally high
Processed Foods with Added Nitrates
Certain processed meats have nitrates added for preservation and flavor. Common examples include:
Bacon
Hot dogs
Salami
Sausages
Deli meats (e.g., ham, bologna)
Not really. Veggies do contain nitrates, but that’s not the same as the nitrites used in processed meat. In vegetables, nitrates come with antioxidants like vitamin C and polyphenols that prevent the formation of nitrosamines (the actual carcinogenic compounds). In bacon or cured meat, the combination of nitrites, proteins, and heat can create nitrosamines. Veggie nitrates are generally linked to better cardiovascular health, not cancer.
