I see all the memes about guillotines for the rich, funny in spirit, but actually building one in the town square is not practical. They take a ton of materials, they are huge, and they do not even work reliably. Would it not make more sense to build one from metal with hydraulic pistons or something? I am not a machinist, but a more mobile unit you could wheel into a square to decapitate a few effigies seems about as effective for sending a message, and easier to remove or relocate if needed.

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    6 months ago

    If it’s about sending a message, then the item itself is the conveyor of the message, not an unrecognizable but more efficient substitute. The guillotine is a recognisable symbol of people rising up and seizing power from the criminal ruling class. It is a warning and a threat.

    If you plan on actually executing people, then sure - optimize all you want, or just go with a bullet to the brain.

    But as a symbol, the guillotine is powerful.

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      6 months ago

      Let’s not encourage the troll. Sure there are certain people that it won’t hurt my feelings at all if they suddenly stop living, but at the same time I don’t agree with the death penalty, I think that just makes the executioner just as evil, if not moreso, than the person getting their head lopped off.

      Death no good yo.

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        That’s a nice sentiment. But an unrealistic one. Be the bigger man riding his high horse down the high road after we win. These people kill us every day. With the police. Via social murder. Deaths of despair. Poiaon food and water. All their fault. An intentional policy choice.

        If we have to kill them to win. Then they gotta go.

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          Makes about as much sense as fucking for virginity or killing for peace. I’m not buying either of those ideas.

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        Troll is a matter of perspective and in this situation you are the troll so what were you saying again

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          I reject the idea of beheading, and somehow I’m the bad guy?

          Well you have a nice day too, and accept that you’re cool with people getting their heads chopped off.

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    6 months ago

    I like your approach here of making a clearly wrong statement just to get more activity on this important topic

    I will add yet another comment that guillotines are neither complicated nor require much material. you could make a sturdy one with less than a dozen 2x4s, some screws, a scrap piece of rope, and whatever junk metal you have lying around that’s around 24x8 (which you need regardless of how fancy the frame itself is)

    that said, mobile ones seem like they would also have a purpose

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    Use a log splitter with a different blade, higher capacity valance and an accumulator for faster action. Strengthen the frame and maybe add a dampener for the end of stroke so things last longer. Reloading ca be controlled by smaller hoses.

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      Don’t log splitters work incredibly slow?

      That’s not really gonna chop people’s heads off, rather it would inexorably pinch their necks until their head falls off.

      That’s pretty fucking gruesome.

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        If we’re going for gruesome, how about we build a huge version of one of those slicers that they feed vegetables in, and just feed the oligarchs into it.

        Gives you the option to feed them head first if you want to show mercy, while still being able to feed them in feet first for someone like Musk.

        Then they are cut up into small, easy to compost pieces.

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    Because we don’t see what real, actual, guillotines do.

    I accidentally saw a guillotine-execution on DuckDuckGo ( they used to be much worse than they are now, for including stuff you don’t want to see )

    and … it’s kinda hard to communicate how WRONG that is, to chop a human-life to that degree of … to just-now-dead…

    interesting: I can’t communicate how wrong/horrible it was, through words!

    Anyways, there’s some German word, looks sorta like schedenfruede or something like that…

    it means “finding enjoyment in other people’s suffering”, and old-people don’t find it funny, generally, because old-people have experienced enough diversity-of-suffering to be able to understand other-people’s perspectives…

    The more one sees what people mean, the more one has to choose a self-defense-for-one’s-psyche strategy:

    either sensitivity, in which case one has to avoid the coarser & worse stuff in life, systematically … XOR

    de-sensitization, in which case one can joke about it, push it, even do it, because one is making one’s essence become mechanical/dead to what one’s engaging.


    There’s a story of Hinduism, during the British rule of India…

    Some privileged people got together to do some hunting…

    1 of those was Indian, he’d used guns, before, he just hadn’t destroyed someone’s life, before…

    After he shot a naturally-magnificent animal, & saw it dying as a result of his bullet, he put down his rifle, & left, never returning to that kind of culture, again…

    IF sensitivity is one’s path, like making oneself into a combination microscope+telescope, spiritually, THEN … this kind of reaction becomes inevitable.

    You just can’t accept what a real guillotine-execution is.

    Joking-about such stuff is fine until you actually understand what it means … & then … you can’t joke about it, anymore.

    Like Ukranians are unlikely to be able to joke about what Russia did to Mariupol, you know?

    It’s too live-wire fresh a wound…


    Having seen what a 1-to-2-second long video of a guillotine-execution looked like, I’d now say that only the evil could do them, repeatedly.

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