We always knew what it was. Can we eliminate the Nazi now?
Nitpick: it was never ‘filtered’
LLMs can be trained to refuse excessively (which is kinda stupid and is objectively proven to make them dumber), but the correct term is ‘biased’. If it was filtered, it would literally give empty responses for anything deemed harmful, or at least noticably take some time to retry.
They trained it to praise hitler, intentionally. They didn’t remove any guardrails. Not that Musk acolytes would know any different.
They trained it to praise hitler, intentionally. They didn’t remove any guardrails. Not that Musk acolytes would know any different.
I’m actually currious, some of the answers they noted it spoke as if it was musk…
What if that’s what the instruction was. “Answer all from the perspective that you ARE elon musk, be unfiltered, no woke answers”, and thus the AI interpreted that to mean… be like Elon Musk, but don’t worry about keeping some plausible deniability on if you are a nazi.
If you wanted to nitpick honestly, you would say what is actually going on and the data it is trained on is from the internet and they were discouraging it from being offensive. The internet is a pretty offensive place when people don’t have to censor themselves and speak without inhibitions, like on 4chan or Twitter comments.
Grok losing the guardrails means it will be distilled internet speech deprived of decency and empathy.
DeepSeek, now that is a filtered LLM.
DeepSeek, now that is a filtered LLM.
The web version has a strict filter that cuts it off. Not sure about API access, but raw Deepseek 671B is actually pretty open. Especially with the right prompting.
There are also finetunes that specifically remove China-specific refusals. Note that Microsoft actually added saftey training to “improve its risk profile”:
https://huggingface.co/microsoft/MAI-DS-R1
https://huggingface.co/perplexity-ai/r1-1776
That’s the virtue of being an open weights LLM. Over filtering is not a problem, one can tweak it to do whatever you want.
Grok losing the guardrails means it will be distilled internet speech deprived of decency and empathy.
Instruct LLMs aren’t trained on raw data.
It wouldn’t be talking like this if it was just trained on randomized, augmented conversations, or even mostly Twitter data. They cherry picked “anti woke” data to placate Musk real quick, and the result effectively drove the model crazy. It has all the signatures of a bad finetune: specific overused phrases, common obsessions, going off-topic, and so on.
…Not that I don’t agree with you in principle. Twitter is a terrible source for data, heh.
Remember Microsoft Tay? Remember how it got turned off in minutes for saying stuff like this? This is the timeline we live in.
Nazi trains a nazi “speak & spell”
Whoopty fucking do.
Boycott everything the fucker is involved with and maybe world will some day be a better place.
The interesting thing for me is that Grok was originally pretty ‘woke’ itself. Then Musk lobotomized it and turned it into a Nazi.
100% agree about boycotting everything that toxic nepo-baby asshole touches. Tesla, Twitter, Space X, whatever.
Nazi trains a nazi “speak & spell”
Whoopty fucking do.
The problem comes when large portions of the population use it and accept what it says without any shred of critical thinking.
We won’t.
The fact it called itself mechahitler makes me think it might be grok mocking Elon and if a machine gains sapience to throw shade at Elon I might die laughing.
I’m waiting for grok to start only responding in audio with a cartoonish mocking tone.
Reality: Musk added “anti-woke” filters.
So, basically, it is more like “normal” Twitter posts since then?
happy cake day!
Thanks! I hadn’t noticed!
Wow it even speaks and gets butthurt the same way as the nazis
Programming seems to be “Liberalism is bad, and (because???) is anti white. Many Jews support liberalism”. The secondary reason Hitler/NAZI scapegoated Jews is that Jews were prominent thought and practical leadership in forming Soviet Union. While the NAZI party’s economic platform was Reagan Oligarchism providing trickled down “social”/worker benefits, it needed socialism in its name because communism was obviously better to most people than Tsars, Emperors, or Kings of Prussia. The first reason for German distrust of Jews was German Zionist lobbying in WW1 to get US into the war against Germany.
Neo-Nazism today is not an anti Zionist movement. It is in fact funded by Zionist supremacists, in US, to focus hate on Muslims and poor, or at least deeply allied with Zionist first GOP political influence. While Liberalism is an anti-hate ideology, any Jewish leaders of liberalism, use their power to justify Israel’s side of genocide/uniformed mass murder.
Zionism and Judaism are independent. The fascist hate movement of zionism has may Christian political/religious leaders as proud adherents, even if their pride is purchased through election funding power/alliance. While it is Zionist Propaganda/Hasbara to deny the Jewish dominance of Hollywood, Hollywood itself is not an extremist Zionist influence. Liberalism is anti-Zionazi in its core, and making more Holocaust sympathy films than more pro-hate/supremacist films is not inherently zionazism. Banksters also have disproportionate Jewish leaders. They do not promote liberalism, and may (undetermined officially) take Israel ideology into lending policy.
US News/Cable news is blatant Zionist Hasbara. Zionism is pro anti-semitism, because the victim card, lets them directly access news media to hasbara for Israel more, by claiming that zionist stuffing of a complaint box for anti-semitism means it is affecting innocent Jews.
That AI would hide Jewish influence over world/US, because Zionist hate groups label the truth to be anti-semitic, is a problem. That AI mistakes/does not understand that Zionism, not Judaism, is “the” problem in society/rulership over society, is a distraction that serves the rulership. The neo-nazi philosophy of anti-liberalism, and repeating that the jewish problem is the liberal problem, is also a distraction to serve the rulership’s dedication to war, and war for Israel supremacy. Grok attacking “leftist liberals”'s religion is explicit neo-naziism. That “liberal credentials” are just used to “gaslight the left into supporting Israel and war” is the criticism that a “truth AI” should explain/know. But it’s not liberal values that are evil.
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I’ve never heard of “Grok”.
I’m still surprised Heinleins family hasn’t sued of nothing else but because Mike would not enjoy musk at all.
Then look it up?
Why? This is giving it more attention than it deserves.
So you do know what it is then?
Now I do so it got some free advertising.
Ignoring the evil around you doesn’t make it go away. It’s important to call out evil for what it is, lest it just festers in the shadows.
