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return2ozma@lemmy.world to News@lemmy.world · 20 days ago

The Scholar Who Predicted America's Breakdown Says It's Just Beginning

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The Scholar Who Predicted America's Breakdown Says It's Just Beginning

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return2ozma@lemmy.world to News@lemmy.world · 20 days ago
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Professor who predicted 2020s unrest sees US sliding deeper into crisis
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Fifteen years ago Peter Turchin warned America was on the brink of a decade of growing political unrest. This is what he says now.
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    Dude. We all saw this shit coming. A blind man could have seen this coming.

    • TotallynotJessica@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      You might’ve seen shit coming, but most Americans just don’t want to accept that the world they’re used to is crumbling. It’s annoying af.

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      you can say anything is just beginning and there’s no way to prove you wrong

      • CH3DD4R_G0B-L1N@sh.itjust.works
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        chunes@lemmy.world ‘s reign of terror is just beginning.

        • Ithral@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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          Your reign of terror is just beginning

          • CH3DD4R_G0B-L1N@sh.itjust.works
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            You’re breathtaking

            • Ithral@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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              Aww thanks ❤️

  • crank0271@lemmy.world
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    Tl;dr: buckle up, buttercup

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    Every “scholar” has been predicting the downfall of society since the beginning of time. What makes this one any different? The old “end is nigh” gambit for views and clicks. We need news to come back, not conjecture. Jack Webb said it best “Just the facts, ma’am.”.

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      His paper has been published on Nature… this because everyone can say the “end is nigh” but few people can come with mathematical models for showing it 🙂

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      I mean, one of them is bound to be right eventually…

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        But that doesn’t mean any follow-up predictions they make or solutions they offer or even explanations they have are right.

        It’s the Texas sharpshooter fallacy we commit every time we point to an expert for making a correct prediction and using that as a reason to trust anything else they say. This is because countless experts make predictions all the time and if we ignore all the wrong ones then we need to account for the fact that one of them may be right due to pure chance.

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    I enjoyed listening him when was interviewed at this podcast https://www.thegreatsimplification.com/episode/164-peter-turchin

    His methodology and arguments are quite reasonable and sounding.

    I would recommend

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    It’s a long, long way down and there’s no climbing back so wave bye bye

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    Doomsday cults have been around forever. Goes back to the Puritans. This isn’t new.

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      There were apocalyptic Jewish sects for thousands of years before Christ. Heck, John the Baptist was an apocalyptic Jew that Christ respected. That is why there’s even a reference to the apocalypse in the Bible. I personally blame the bronze age collapse, and the green Sahara ending.

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        Right but I’m talking about the roots of America, and the first settlers who influenced where America is today.

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