• Rhoeri@lemmy.world
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    15 days ago

    I have some gloves-off shit I need to get off my mind and I feel the time and place for it is now because I’m very angry:

    So… non voters, remember when we were telling everyone that would listen to “vote blue no matter who? Remember that? Of course you do- you threw that shit back at us like it was a god damned grenade. Remember that?

    Yeah, well…. THIS is why we were saying that.

    You see, we all saw this shit coming. Which is why we were saying to plug your fucking noses and just vote. Hell…, We even tried to reason with you- suggesting that-

    You’re not voting FOR Harris, you’re voting AGAINST fascism!

    You didn’t listen.

    Your “…but, they’re doing a genocide!” was so deeply embedded via your little edgelord wind-tunnels, that most of you began to see it as an argument to win, instead of a point to be made-

    Instead of doing anything substantial to help end it.

    Well. Your point was definitely made. We all have heard you loud and clear. You collectively and VERY loudly agreed that you would be fine with the outcome either way- since genocide was going to be happening no matter who you voted for, right?

    I do have to ask though…

    Are you still fine with your choice? How about the memory of you, sitting on your asses and laughing at all the people rushing to voting booths in-between work and picking their kids up from daycare… How is that sitting with you? All those jokes and inflammatory remarks you hurled at the people who tried their fucking best to stop this with the only thing they have- their vote. The people, who tried to protect your sorry asses that couldn’t be bothered to even do the BARE FUCKING MINIMUM asked to protect our democracy.

    I ask you… are those jokes still funny?

    Is there any chance that any of you want to walk back all those accusations you made about everyone being sheep? What about those smug and arrogant jabs about how both sides are the same? About how democrats and republicans are somehow working together…

    care to issue a statement here?

    Because I’m pretty damned certain that NONE of this shit would be happening right now if you had listened to us when we told you that this was going to happen.

    When HE fucking told you this would happen.

    And while very few people here were ever in favor of the genocide in Palestine- much to the disagreement of the few that are around that are STILL arguing against this point- we knew and know- that the pain we face at home must be resolved before we can be of any aid in the pain endured by others in theirs… Especially when most of you couldn’t have even pointed to any of those homes on a map a year ago and a half ago.

    It should be noted that this is not in any way to lay the entirety of blame at the feet of the stay-at-home/its-someone-else’s-problem protestors, but the numbers are in, and while your combined lack of effort might not make up the entirety of the ninety one million registered voters that stayed home, it’s a fair guess that between you and the ones that voted third party-

    We could have avoided this.

    Roughly four to five million votes. That’s all we needed. Just four to five million of you to have listened. But your arrogance, your fucking entitlement- wouldn’t let this happen.

    So now here we are. With this shit. This tyrant king and his pet tech-gremlin, stripping away our rights hour by hour, day by day. And while dealing with this shit, I as an American, have to carry on hour by hour, day by day- being tossed into the same bucked with you.

    I have to shoulder the blame right along side you. And it’s not fucking fair. I did my part. I voted. I canvased, I shouted from the fucking rooftops.

    But I’ll digress…

    I sincerely hope that high road you thought you were taking lands you all right to where it seems the rest of us are going….

    Because no one deserves it more.

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      15 days ago

      I have so many idiot friends who said “I’m not voting for Harris cause of Israel”. I’m betting that line was a plant by the Republicans or Putin. but it stuck. and my friends bought it hook line and sinker.

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      14 days ago

      90 million voters don’t know just how fucking good they have it. They think America is America because it’s America. America is America because the people before us were willing to die for human rights.

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      14 days ago

      I didn’t even have to hold my nose for Kamala. She seemed fine. Nothing amazing but fine, just like Biden.

      But then again I don’t care about the pressing issues like how someone laughs.

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        Yeah, it’s all relative. There are plenty of issues with Kamala, and I think most of us here on Lemmy would prefer somebody considerably more progressive. However, we in the US live in a country full of people who just actively chose Donald fucking Trump, and every single one of them lived through his first term. Even if they didn’t live in the US at the time, they heard all about it if they cared to listen.

        But hey, let’s see the bright side. Maybe accelerating straight into crazy town will see us wrap back to the next period of peace and democracy more quickly.

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      I was one of those people right there with you, screaming at the non voters to vote.

      Given what the Election Truth Alliance, and The Voice of San Diego have uncovered, I don’t think it would have mattered. They used every single method to steal the election that they could.

      https://sdvoice.info/trump-lost-vote-suppression-won-here-are-the-numbers/

      https://youtu.be/UgIay64Obcs

      https://youtu.be/t-yr-Mgkhm0

      https://electiontruthalliance.org/eta

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      14 days ago

      Am Not an American . Are the Democrats now doing something to be more appealing in the future, or they just rely on Trump to keep being awful?

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      13 days ago

      The genocide stuff(yes we know its deplorable) was a wedge issue grift started and perpetuated by russia

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        Yeah, funny how after election day, genocide stopped being the #1 voting issue here, but that said, there were a handful of useless idiots who actually bought into the rooskie psyop, and you occasionally see their pathetic attempts to justify their choices up to today.

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      14 days ago

      Excuse me, but if I remember correctly, wasn’t that election one with the most people voting ever? Kind of odd to be blaming non-voters when the voting turnout was a lot larger than usual.

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        14 days ago

        No, the correct paraphrasing is

        “When given the choice between a less than perfect, but educated, compliant and compassionate candidate, or Hitler-without-class, pick the first one, otherwise you’ll get the second.”

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          Maybe one day you will realize it is the complete and willing ineptitude of democrats domestically and their never-ending bloodlust in foreign policy that got us here in the first place and then you will be correct when you righteously shake your fists while scolding them.

          It’s a big maybe.

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            14 days ago

            How’s all that nothing you did working out for Gaza right now, bud? Happy for your decisions? No? Yeah, I get that. I see it too and it’s a huge bummer. Well…

            Did your lack of effort do well for your loved ones in the LGBTQ+? No? Okay, well…

            What about all the women in your life? Do you think your inaction helped them in a way you fell they deserved?

            Meh…

            Either way, I’m not debating this shit with you. You’re unhinged and incapable of being reasoned with.

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                14 days ago

                if you truly believe what you just said, then i assume you are currently plotting to overthrow the current admin. otherwise, you’re just an armchair quarterback or working for the other side.

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                    14 days ago

                    i’m not an idiot. i’m a survivor. i don’t fight losing battles. when the people are ready to fight, i’ll be there. the people are not ready to fight yet.

                    your turn. how do we deal with the current situation if all the parties are equally bad? voting is obviously not an option by your account. what’s your plan?

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                14 days ago

                I think I already said I’m not going to argue with your unhinged rhetoric.

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        The bed is made, all we have left to do now is lie in it.

        Moving forward, the best thing that can happen from this is to ensure that those that caused it see the damage they helped create so that if we ever have the opportunity again, they’ll have learned from it.

        And I’ll be on this soapbox until I feel like I’ve said my fucking peace.

        Block me.

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          praise the lord, but really… it’s time to think about what the people have to do to reign this nightmare in.

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        14 days ago

        i agree with rhoeri, but you make an excellent point. the past is the past. we can learn from our mistakes when we have a future to look forward to.