Republican President Donald Trump said on Sunday he was not joking about seeking a third presidential term, which is barred by the U.S. Constitution, but that it was too early to think about doing so.
Trump, who took office on January 20 for his second, non-consecutive White House term, has made vague allusions to seeking a third one but addressed it directly on Sunday in a telephone interview with NBC News.
“No, I’m not joking. I’m not joking,” Trump said, but “it is far too early to think about it.”
“There are, there are methods which you could do it, as you know,” he said. He declined to elaborate on any specific methods.
He’s the oldest president the States has ever had, hopefully he’ll die before his term is over.
He doesn’t lie about what he wants to do.
He lies about his accomplishments.
It’s been like this since his first term. He’s not lying about invading Greenland or punishing Canada into being the 51st state. He absolutely wants to. Assuming (hopefully) that both these endeavors never materialize, he will claim that these threats accomplished some other goal that was made up on the spot. Which will be a lie.
until it’s actually time for the next election, all of the third term bullshit is functionally serving only to distract from signalgate and dismantling the courts/gov etc. do not lose focus. (edit: typo fix)
He doesn’t care about court orders or rule of law. It is possible for him to try it. It is amazing he can say stuff like openly, no pushback from his base. He is pushing people to their limits something will have to give.
Hopefully it involves a gun and an orange man’s head
no pushback from his base
They wouldn’t be his base if they were going to push back. The Republicans who don’t like Trump have already fled to the Democrat Party (which is now thoroughly infested with Neocons) while the Dems that decided they are cool with Fascism are increasingly defecting to the Republican Party.
We’re self-sorting into Fascist Extra Strength and Can’t Believe It’s Not Fascist: Imitation Patriotism.
The strategy is really simple, and I don’t know why it isn’t obvious to everyone. The Republican party will simply refuse to run a candidate in 2028. They will claim that the country is under hostile occupation by Marxists who are attempting to destroy the United States from within and Trump will just refuse to leave office after the mid-terms (if we even make it that far before he declares war & martial law).
They don’t need to cancel, manipulate, or legally challenge anything. At that point, it doesn’t fucking matter what happens with the election because there is no legal mechanism to enforce the removal of the regime. They are going to dare the courts, the police, and the military to try and forcibly remove them, which we all know will not happen. Then just rule by fiat forever.
The End.
I guess that’s why he’s trying to get into a war.
Oh 100%, this is dictatorial coup 101
I mean the U.S. even held elections during a Civil War, I don’t think fighting overseas is going to change anything.
They’ll probably do something more stupid than that, like replacing him with one of his sons with the promise that daddy Trump will keep running everything regardless
Perhaps. I think it is much more likely that Thiel & Musk attempt to wait Trump’s death out and then install Vance, which will ultimately be the crescendo that causes large scale civil unrest because everybody fucking hates him.
Sounds like the movie Civil War.
Life imitates art, and the truth is usually stranger than fiction…
Then just rule by fiat forever. The End.
I don’t think it actually ends that way, but I think you’re right about them aiming for it
To be clear, I agree with you. I was being hyperbolic about the “rule forever” part because nothing last forever.
However, I think they are drunk enough on their own power to believe they can outlast all of us, and it remains to be seen, in the short term, whether they are right…
I still have some hope that if there is an overwhelming support for democrats in the midterms, crisis might be averted. It will have to be overwhelming support, because the GOP are going to play every dirty trick possible to cancel elections, jail candidates, etc.
If that happens, impeachment and removal actually becomes possible. And, even if he isn’t impeached, a democrat controlled legislature could reassert their power and take his away. After all, these “executive orders” he keeps issuing are nothing more than memos from a boss to his subordinates about how he wants an agency to be run. They don’t have the force of laws, laws are exclusively within the authority of the legislature.
OTOH, I think the US is a profoundly sick country, and despite everything Trump still have a huge base of support, so a massive, overwhelming election for democrats is just about impossible.
Not surprisingly, the constitutionalists and “Biden is too old”
crowdRepublicans are silent.Republicans are not and have never been honest. At least since Regan. This includes Republican voters.
FWIW my issue was never explicitly about Biden’s age but his mental capacity, which had clearly declined (he did have some good days tho.)
Trump’s mental capacity seems to be about the same as it always was (it was always low, but not as bad as Biden on a bad day.)
Not that I’d vote for Trump either way, mind you.
Are we talking about the same person? Trumps ramblings are more incoherent than ever. He often forgets words, or uses the wrong word, and then gets confused trying to find the right word. Those are serious signs of dementia related diseases.
Trump can’t even keep a thought in his head for more than 5 minutes which is fortunate because he can’t articulate on any thought past 2 minutes. So ya he’s gonna repeat himself once or twice its simple math. It’s not just that he’s dumb, or senile… he’s also woefully uneducated.
Trump rambles about the same as he did in the 2016 election, he was just as incoherent back then, he brain-farted in the middle of a sentence on multiple occasions during his first term and just babbled to try to cover it. None of this is new, none of it has increased sharply and thus become a sudden new concern - he’s the same senile little shithead he’s been since the early 2000s at least. But he still clearly has some capability to speak and act somewhat normally, unlike Biden on that debate stage who looked confused and not all there all of a sudden (and was fine a few days later.)
So if there is decline, and I’m not arguing there isn’t, it’s been going on for a long time. Biden’s was new, bad, and seemed to be accelerating fairly rapidly. I’m not saying Trump is better - I’m about as far from being a Trump supporter as one can be and still be on the same political spectrum - I’m just saying Biden’s mental health was a problem, and pretending that it isn’t is part of why it is.
I watched the Biden, Trump debate, and i did not think Biden was incoherent. Dunno wtf everyone is talking about. He looked old and tired, that’s about it. I swear, every time people say this i feel like its a god damn talking point.
I don’t think he was incoherent, I think he was lost. It took him some time to figure out what was going on and get around to answering the question, and while he did answer them, he was a space cadet man. Iono if it’s meds or dementia or what, but. But I mean Trump is a fucking mentally deficient clown with a bad case of verbal diarrhea, so neither party were ‘sending us their best’, if you know what I mean. :P
This a prank to force me to remember Finally Beat Medicare? :) no thanks! haha
Bro biden had no problem communicating. He had a speach impediment.
I watch most presidential press briefings and only one of the 80 year old presidents is a senile old fool.
Even if Biden has lost his mind, the remaining parts amounted for more knowledge about government and international affairs than trump ever had.
Biden is gone and our problems are just begining, do me a favor and keep his name out of your mouth.
What? I’ve heard him talk from a few years ago, he stumbles over his words occasionally, but Biden’s debate performance was not a speech impediment. He was lost, easily distracted, and spoke like he wasn’t all there. And the fact that it comes and goes (he seemed fine just a few days later) suggests this is a mental issue, not a life-long thing. I agree with you though, Biden is still better than Trump (I am about as far from being a Trump supporter as one can possibly be and still be on the same political spectrum), and his cabinet was far better, but pretending that it’s not a problem is part of why it was a problem.
Also you are cordially invited to fuck all the way off with that ‘keep his name out of your mouth’ shit. I’m here to have adult discussions about our situation and how we got into it, if you can’t handle that then you’re welcome to go sit at the kids’ table.
Did you see the entire 4 year presidency so you can compare it to the current one or did you just see the debate bro? You realize he was on TV talking every day for 4 years and fox news captured all the speech blunders. It was not that many.
Did you see anything but the debate bro? be honest? Did you say Genocide Joe and Vote Jill Stien and hand the election to trump? Pretending like biden was a bad president is an opinion reserved for Fox news enjoyers. Biden was not the problem you were. The low information voter. The voter that shows up last minute and sorts through a couple narratives and sends it. Or are you the voter that splits the party in the most important election of our life time. Which one are you bro? You don’t sound like you need to be discussing politics, you need to be studying it.
Sorry, is it suddenly a problem that I judge a candidate by the campaign they run like literally everyone else?
I only bring up the debate because while there had been gaffes and brain-farts before, this was the most he’s spoken at one time in a while and it was real fuckin’ bad, man, and anyone with eyes could see it. I dunno if it was a new problem or an old problem getting worse, but I’m gonna go ahead and guess it’s the second one since his staff has already spoken out about his issues. I’m not saying Biden was a bad president (certainly not compared to either Trump term so far), and he at least had a competent administration around him. I’m saying he was a bad candidate and should not have run again. You know, like he said he wouldn’t.
I look forward to not expecting your vote against trumps 3rd term. Be sure to keep criticizing the dems in the past and not focusing on the authoritarian coup underway!
You can look forward to not having any idea how I vote because I don’t discuss that. Also I definitely will, thanks. Maybe one day you too will be a grown-ass adult who is capable of criticizing multiple things at the same time. Won’t that be fun!
Why are you guys talking about the debate performance? Is that the only time you watched Biden speak? I watch press briefings 24/7. Biden spoke just fine when he was talking to europe. He spoke fine when he talked to the american people.
But ya he couldnt keep up with trump lying his ass off, go figure. AT 10 PM at night. Sure ya bro go off. you guys are totally spitting. Nothing about policy or government just all debate vibes “dId YoU sEe ThE dEbAtE bRo?”
As his staff has said he has good days and bad, which is pretty common with dementia-related illnesses.
Have you ever been around someone with dementia? Have you ever watched them slowly fade away until they can’t even remember their own family members? I have. I remember those ‘maybe they’re not all there’ days, and it was almost worse that they were interspersed with days where they seemed lively and all together and on top of the world, because you know it won’t last, because those days will get fewer and further between until they just don’t come at all.
Would you elect my grandmother who thinks she’s still living under the Hoover administration? I wouldn’t.
Yes I lost my grandma to dementia, so I’m a bit offended at you confusing a speach impediment and old age with actual dementia.
I must have clinical dementia too at 35 from smoking to much weed. I forget shit all the time from some light ADD.
Anyway, reality called. You got Dementia Don as president. He’s half as lucid and 3 times as dangerous, and he’s sorrounded by incompetent Yes-men.
I’m done arguing with you. Bidens corpse would be a better president than Trump. Just down vote me and leave me alone.
I’m sorry for your loss. Mine isn’t gone yet, but it won’t be long.
But I wouldn’t vote for your grandmother either.
Extremely reasonable concerns, I agree. I wish Biden would have passed the baton early on like he said he was going to. I honestly think that cost the Democrats the election.
But given the choice between a declining Biden surrounded by competent people or Trump surrounded by sycophants, I would choose the former.
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I perhaps should have clarified that I meant Republicans who said they opposed Biden because of his age, who are suddenly okay with someone in his 80s running.
I certainly did not mean Democrats earnestly voicing concern of Bidens age.
They’re not upset you appeared to criticize a Democrat. They’re juvenilly incensed that you dared push back against the propaganda they fully believe. With the most feint of defense of a Democrat. Check their history. Dingdong don’t do nuance or maturity. You’re fine.
You know its funny @Eldritch@lemmy.world
I was pulling receipts the other day of yours. You like I should post them here?
Sure go ahead. It won’t disprove anything I said. But that wasn’t the point was it? It was all about deflection and distraction. Because you don’t have a response to it. You know it’s true. And you just proved it. My sins real or imagined won’t change that. Have a nice day😀
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Lies and projection, impressive. As proof I point to your very first post in this thread chain. Go ahead look at your post now back to mine post again, then back to yours. Who’s the juvenile toxic one? Oh BTW you offered no receipts. You made an empty claim without even a link to a single post.
Let me show you how to do it. You are well known for not being able to handle anyone who disagrees with you. No matter how respectfully. Resorting to juvenile tactics and name calling, such as blue maga. In an attempt to discredit the arguments and points of others. Because you cannot put forth any cogent defense of your viewpoints. You shrilly shouted it plenty.
My only stance was that statistically, mathematically, historically, evidentially, and traditionally a Democrat or a Republican would win the presidency. That we should pick our battles and focus on keeping the fascist out. Nothing more nothing less. You were the one running Purity tests attacking the candidates we had. Fantasizing over candidates we didn’t. Focusing on being part of the group that helped keep constant attacks on Democrats in the news and not the fact that their opponent was a literal fascist that would be the end of us. And while Democrats are plenty to blame for their own failures. You factor in as well. I never advocated for any particular candidate.(against plenty) Just to keep the fascist out. But please do point a link to an actual quote of me saying otherwise. Would have if you could have. But you didn’t. Because as I said before, all you have is juvenile emotion and projection.
Oh and I stand by the statement in that image in general. As history has born it out but it doesn’t show what you say it does. Maga blindly things to emotion and ideology over reality. As people like yourself do
Thank you for the clarification.
This man needs to stroke out and die. The fact he’s not already in prison is sickening
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I sometimes wonder how his SS detail hasn’t done so but they are in fact cops and AC AB.
You don’t remember? Many USSS members are Trump loyalists…
I just wonder what happened to that deep state?
They’re building it
Well the one they’re building is less competent and more evil than the one they fear mongered thankfully.
He kept talking about it because he intended to create it
I think his age and poor health will come into play before the end of 2026 if not before the end of this year. Once he kicks the bucket, the clown committee will not be able to keep it together. That’s my prediction.
Added to that: the dems will make no meaningful move to capitalize on the moment of advantage when bad orange man is dead and republicans fall into disarray.
Edit: am i just wishful thinking? Maybe, but you guys and your cold water can’t extinguish my hope.
If I’m wrong, then the only alternative is to shut down this idiot circus by other means. We must resist with everything we have, and never let go of our revolutionary optimism.
I don’t think we’re in a timeline where we’ll be so lucky.
Trumps father lived until his 90s and had dementia iirc. Trump still has 10+ years left. He might not be functioning well rn bht I expect him to still remain president for years to come.
Ronald Reagan had full-blown Alzheimer’s disease through his entire second term and yet Republicans kept control of the White House through 1992. Dementia is no obstacle when the guy at the top is a show pony anyway.
Hoping for divine intervention hasn’t done wonders so far
We know he’s not joking. The question is whether the military, sworn to uphold the Constitution, will do anything about it when the time comes.
That time passed long ago.
The 14th amendment could not be clearer in barring from office participants in an insurrection. Yet Krasnov is president.
Most states probably won’t even let him register for presidential election.
Hasn’t the Supreme Court already ruled on this when Colorado tried it? It was pretty clear then that he violated the 14th Amendment. So what’s the 22nd to them this time? The deed will be done.
I believe they commented it was fine for colorado to enforce the 35 yrs old requirement because its clear cut and there’s no process needed to make that determination. The 22nd amendment doesn’t require any determination process, so its unlikely they’ll be able to bar it without letting toddlers run for president
He’ll just threaten to stop all federal monetary transfers to those states and they’ll cave.
Sure but you only need them to bar him long enough to keep him off the ballot. Imo it takes time to cave to monetary pressure.
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I would honestly be surprised if he survives his current term.
Same. I mean…I know he has the best medical care possible…but he’s old AF, fat, does not exercise, his brain is quickly turning further into mush, and no matter how much his handlers insulate him from doing actual work, he still has an insanely stressful job. I don’t see how he makes it to 2028 without major health problems up to and including stroke, heart attack, and/or death.
I meant that the people with guns and violent tendencies are getting pissed off. Republicans won’t show up in their own districts/townhall meetings anymore. Thomas Crooks took a shot at trump before all of the recent problems he’s caused. I can’t imagine him holding an open air rally anywhere in the US right now.
Yes, he is still popular among Republicans, but he only needs to be extremely unpopular with just one psychotic gun nut, and he’s pissed a lot of them off recently.
Just heard an interview on BBC radio this morning with an American explaining that there are avenues for Trump to do this by abusing the line of succession. It sounds like they want to appoint him as Speaker of the House and then have the president and vice president abdicate.
You’re getting too technical.
The real simple solution is to…
Step 1: Say you’re running for president
Step 2: Win primary unopposed
Step 3: Appear on national ballot unopposed
Step 4: Announce that you have won
Step 5: Anyone who claims you didn’t win is in violation of the Abolish Woke Act of 2027 and subject to indefinite detention
Yeah, there was already established law to prevent him from running for president. It got ignored. He ran anyway. He won anyway. He became president anyway.
Any of these legal mechanisms only work if they are upheld.
He ran anyway. He won anyway. He became president anyway.
Under a Liberal President, a Liberal AG, and Liberal Courts no less.
Any of these legal mechanisms only work if they are upheld.
Even after '16, Democrats doggedly insisted he would be easy to beat. I think that, more than anything, is what cleared his path. Liberals simply could not believe he was popular enough to win.
Merrick Garland. That AG’s name is Merrick Garland. It should not be forgot. Merrick Garland. He sat on his ass just like Mitch McConnell thinking things would magically work themselves out without needing to do their jobs and lo and behold things did not magically work themselves out.
Because the liberals had their heads stuck in the sand because they weren’t paying attention.
Except Bernie and AOC. They knew, and nobody listened.
Hey now. I’m pretty sure they listened. That’s why they turned on The Squad in the '22 and '24 elections, spending hundreds of millions at the primary level to force them out. Cori Bush and Jamal Bowman lost their jobs in the last cycle, precisely because reactionaries in the (D) party were listening. Quite a few others were gated out of the system on similar grounds.
What law are you taking about?
Technically an amendment to the constitution, the third section of the 14th amendment, that nobody who has engaged or helped an insurrection can hold office in the government or military (except with a 2/3 majority of congress).
Yeah, you’re not wrong, that’s another path. Full blown authoritarianism.
Reminds me of when there was a Russian PM Dmitry Medvedev who I think was just a puppet until Putin decided there was no point in pretending.
Yes, exactly. They used Medvedev as an example.
