Have to agree with all the scepticism. Even if this does work, it’s just going to end up being used as an excuse to allow continued pollution rather than the clean up measure it should be.
It’s a stupid game to play, and should not be considered our long term strategy… then again, right now the long term strategy seems to be kicking the can down the road, so this might be better than nothing.
Doing anything but actually solve the problem. Amazing.
Actually this solves a very important problem. If we stop all pollution and carbon emissions today the earth will still be heated up significantly for the next thousand years or so. Enough that life will be more than uncomfortable, we’ll have massive water shortages, widespread desertification, and wholesale extinctions of many plants and animals.
We need carbon sequestration if we want to control the damage already done.
I would love to see some actual numbers on how much greenhouse gasses we release in the process of carbon sequestration. If we’re using carbon energy sources that emit more than they capture then we’re making the problem worse. I kind of doubt the US is going to use solar, wind, nuclear, and hydro to sequester carbon right now.
By definition it isn’t carbon sequestration if the grams CO2 equivalent (gCO2e) isn’t negative after a full lifecycle study. Lifecycle studies are somewhat contentious as you might imagine since they try to encompass so much in one number, but generally studies agree that the major proposals are strongly negative.
You can read more about that here for a few of the more likely candidates. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_sequestration#Geologic_carbon_sequestration
By definition it isn’t carbon sequestration if the grams CO2 equivalent (gCO2e) isn’t negative after a full lifecycle study.
I think that should be the definition, but looking at the wikipedia page that you shared, it doesn’t seem to be. At least not by:
- IPCC Sixth Assessment Report: “The process of storing carbon in a carbon pool”
- United States Geological Survey (USGS): Carbon sequestration is the process of capturing and storing atmospheric carbon dioxide
There’s no notion that it has to be have a net negative CO impact, which is exactly what I assume businesses and politicians rely on. They can say “we’re putting away carbon”, which is technically true, but they don’t have to say how much carbon was used in order to do so.
IMO, until at least the carbon cost of sequestration is reported instead of just the monetary cost, the contracts aren’t worth the paper they are written on.
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I posted this when I saw this on another community:
This is honestly probably more of a transition jobs program for oil workers and something designed to get a few extra votes in Congress. One of the projects is in my state (Louisiana) and the politicians all stressed how it’s creating jobs in the oil producing Southwest part of the state. And the other project is in East Texas. The companies even pinky swore that at least 10% of their workforce would be former oil workers.
In the end, I see this a low risk, high reward experiment that, while obviously used for greenwashing, also builds support for a green economy in places where oil jobs are the middle class ones.
I also could see this being a way to create specialized carbon-based fuels after the transition. Hopefully, it gets cheaper than drilling and can supply whatever “fossil” fuels are still around. (The world’s militaries probably aren’t gonna switch to green hydrogen and renewables by 2040.)
Btw fuck paywalls, https://archive.ph/Yc5CS
Yeah this is a weird thing. It’s okay as a patch, but it also has to come with or even after an actual cure.
Plus I hope we use a space ship that transforms into a mega maid.
I would rather them just spend 1.2 billion planting trees. Just plant a shitload of trees, that’s it.
Planting trees has a very minimal impact on the climate in the long term.
Trees are great. Except they love to burn. Either as a fuel, or as part of the forest fire.
That’s why I hate when the corporations do carbon offseting by planting trees.
Yeah what’s the percentage of all trees burning up? That’s kind of a dumb take.
I don’t want to sound like a fatalist, but there is actually no upper limit.
I mean have you been reading the news lately about the multiple massive wildfires throughout the world?
Yes and with a 3rd of the Amazon chopped down. What do we have? Still a fuck ton of trees and need for a fuck ton more.
That’s mental
Is there sound science to this? Or is this a entity profiting off of a pipe dream?
In this case, it’d be a pipeline dream.
Are you here all week? 😁
You know it; try the bartender and tip your veal.
I never thought we’d get to the point of Oxygen Not Included being akin to real life.
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