No responsible board should sell as much as a paper clip to this sociopathic weenis piss baby.
Now give me an example of a corporate board at Intel’s scale being responsible when given the choice between being responsible or buttloads of short-term profits.
I thought the weenis was a dance?
What? It worked out for Twitter shareholders though.
What bothers me about all these political posts is when people act surprised when profit seeking people act purely in their self interest.
I agree it’s bad, but it’s weird to be constantly mad about things so obvious like parasites acting parasitically.
Ultimately, the board doesn’t control who can buy stock.
Responsible to who?
Of course they will sell if there’s a profit to be made. Companies exist to make profits, if they can make a profit from it, it’s actually their responsibility to the shareholders to do it.Maybe you mean responsible in some way that has to do with morals, but if you think morals apart from staying within the law, have any say in this whatsoever, you are being very naive. That’s not at all how the system works.
That said I don’t see any other way than corruption for Musk to be interested. Musk buys Intel, and Trump doubles the subsidies to Intel and give them extra sweet government contracts. And everybody profit, except the stupid taxpayers including those that voted Trump.
Only the law helps super capitalist narcissists to stay at least somewhat within moral norms.
And in USA the law doesn’t even count anymore. So there you go, everything is fucked up, until Americans figure it out. Which means it will be fucked up for a loooong time.
This was always the inevitable outcome of capitalism. Just some rich lying dipshit buying the world.
I think elons would be needed to be broken down by government like the Rockefellers.
Yeah.
And there’s a very good chance that Elon spends his waning years in and out of every court, trying to stay out of jail.
Source: Rockefeller’s biography.
And that’s actually the optimistic version, from Elon’s perspective. There’s been plenty of rich assholes in history that didn’t have to worry about the courts.
I mean really depends whether or not he manages to continue to succesfully own the US government. He made basically statements along the lines of if trump loses the election he could go to jail. I assume he’s betting on either the trump administration killing democracy… or being able to buy the next election too. Or perhaps just often enough that the supreme court never gets fixed.
Yeah. Rockefeller pretty much owned the government in his heyday, too.
And then at some point he didn’t anymore. Money can buy power, but it does run out eventually.
Rockefeller was a lot smarter than Musk, and got a bit ahead of it with publicity stunt donations, before his influence ran out.
Musk thinks he can achieve a better outcome by controlling the media or the courts.
I think it’s objectively true that controlling the media does work, but I also think Musk wildly overestimates his own competence, and is in for a worse time than Rockefeller had.
Musk-busting?
Sounds terrible. I’m sure it’ll happen cuz we live in hell.
Look at the way Tesla collects and treats customer data, and the way Musk seems to unilaterally abuse his control over the companies he owns for personal reasons.
Now think about the capabilities of the Intel Management Engine that pretty much every Intel CPU requires.
Bad vibes, I say.
For those feeling out of the loop, see here: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Management_Engine
Tldr - it’s a little always on processor, running a Minix OS, with direct access to all board devices including the Ethernet Controller.
AMD has something similar in form of their Platform Security Processor.
They have to old slogan of intel inside ready to be rebranded as incel inside
I appreciate him doing this after intel lost their magic, otherwise, it would have been much harder emotionally.
They lost it in CPUs, but I think they’re actually nailing it in GPUs though (for once(at least for the budget/entry level))
They have what, 2 models? And in the GPU market, they aren’t even a pimple on the fly on the ass of nVidia or AMD
I’ve personally seen on at least 5 different Intel models on store shelves. The A380, A580 and the A750. Now the B580 and B570. The A380 stuck around but the others sold out fast from what I saw.
And though they aren’t nearly as large as the two giants, they seem to be aiming for and pleasing the under-served sub-$250 market. Though I wish they’d publish more official numbers. A 6 day slice from a retailer isn’t a great view on trends.
Eh unless they have the most efficient overall, they won’t make inroads into the server market. The entry level laptop and desktop markets are getting smaller and has less margins.
Any source you can cite?
Do you mean the efficiency question? I’m just deducing if they were competitive in servers Intel would jump at that opportunity.
As for the PC market, just looking at unit sales: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Market_share_of_personal_computer_vendors
And as for margins, well the exact information is a bit hard to find but in general lower end products have tighter margins and the buyers for them are more price sensitive.
Oh sorry, yeah that was directed towards the comment that the desktop market is getting smaller. I’ve heard that “the desktop computer is dead” for over two decades now, so that wiki page is quite interesting.
I’d love to see the 2024 number once it gets published, because the 2020/1 numbers are such an anomalies from COVID that it’s hard to tell if the market’s actually shrinking or just stabilizing.
It likely will stabilize, but it might become more of an enthusiast market. People don’t necessarily need a PC anymore.
Issue is, Intel controls the x86 architecture which is in almost all desktop PCs…
On one hand “noooo!” But on the other this would be great for ARM and RISC-v if Intel tanks.
Screw ARM honestly, they don’t need any help. RISC-V though as the only open source of any significance, absolutely!
What about POWER9? You can buy a complete workstation right now, with an open source CPU, Board, BIOS. It’ll cost you an arm, a leg, and probably some more internal organs, but it is currently more functional than RISC-V.
c’mon RISC-V! Framework is developing a board for their laptop right now.
Technically it’s a third party developing a Framework board. Regardless, it’s cool that other companies even can design Framework boards, and it’s cool Framework are fully supportive of it!
I didn’t know that, very cool
Hooray for Risc-v, anyway.
I think I joke too often about ruling benevolently over the world’s robots someday after everyone lays off their Cybersecurity staff.
But if we continue this trend, this community may have the only clean secure laptops after everyone else sells out and fills their shit with backdoors.
Maybe we can rule together as a benevolent collective…
AMD: “Go for it!”
Right?! RIP Intel haha
This is the only reputable outlet that had anything to say about it.
They reference SemiAccurate as the source, which I have not heard of before, but seems to have a solid track record with accurate reporting.
GET. FUCKED. MUSK.
I have to say, having an all-AMD setup makes me feel slightly okay today, even though AMD is just another shit company. At least it’s not in the running to be owned by that fucking tool.
He’s going to rename the i series to something ridiculous like i69, i420, i1337, and iX isn’t he?
The new Incel X series
Holy fuck no thank you
I was about to get extremely upset, and then I remembered I haven’t used intel since 2012.
I have a 13700K that’s growing increasingly unstable due to their fuckup on voltage control. Never again. My next rebuild will be AMD.
havent built a new PC since 2019 but when I did, I specifically picked AMD because of the Specter problem that existed at the time. havent looked back since.
oh, I agree.
Does that include Wi-Fi or cellular modems or any of the other shit they make, or just x86 CPUs?
Who wants to get in bed with Elon so he drives the brand into the ground? How much has Fidelity written down their investment in Twitter, 80%?
Mixed feelings about this as someone with a relatively (per my portfolio) huge investment in Intel. It would result, eventually, in the end of Intel. But so many dumb people with so much money keep throwing money at his crap companies so it might work out in the short term to get out with a profit.
Youre going to short it?
On the social media front Elon literally knows nothing, but it’s impossible to deny that he hasn’t helped build 2 companies that know how to manufacturer complex hardware at scale. To deny that just shows ignorance.
So while Intel has so many problems, and there’s the whole politics disaster side of things, he might not actually cause the end of Intel from a hardware perspective.
I don’t know that he has helped build anything. He has helped hype 2 companies.
He did great PR when someone was managing him, but recently his PR is poison.
SpaceX is managed by someone competent, musk has - quite frankly - little to do with the company.
Tesla is riding the hype from before musk took off the mask. I give them 4 years, tops. If it’s not already on the way down.Intel needs to be run and managed by engineers. That’s what we want from core components. Not hype, not bubbles, not marketing speak, not fancy names and confusing part numbers. We want actual engineers who have thought through the implications of their decisions all the way to the end consumer. We want hardware that works and is predictable.
Tom Mueller the person who was at SpaceX at the start would wholly disagree with you and says so online, as have other people, but instead people just say they are saving face and rely on anonymous sources to say he does jack all.
So like I said, ignorance.
It’s blissful sure, but it’s ignorance.
Edit: there are plenty of reasons to hate and dunk on the dude, but people love to enhance it with stuff like he doesn’t and never did do anything to make their hate seem even more worthy. All it does though is make you look ignorant.
If Leon buys Intel, then I will switch permanently to AMD or the loser is playing with the market.
switch permanently to AMD
So glad I switched to AM5 on my last main gaming rig rebuild last year lol
That’s a silly reason to pick a piece of tech IMO. I buy exclusively AMD because they offer great value, especially since they support their sockets for a long time. For their GPUs, they have fantastic drivers on Linux.
I honestly don’t care who owns them, I care that the quality is good for the price. I don’t find that to be true for Tesla, so I don’t own one. If he buys Intel, that won’t change my opinion of their products, I’ll still avoid them because he value isn’t there.
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