I’ve been trying to find out more about this because the story doesn’t make any sense:
“he approached the sleeping woman, and then lit her on fire with what was believed to be a lighter. She added the victim’s clothes became fully engulfed in a matter of seconds.”
Clothing shouldn’t just be flammable like that without some kind of accelerant.
https://www.cpsc.gov/Regulations-Laws--Standards/Statutes/Flammable-Fabrics-Act
Homeless people might use layers of all kinds of stuff to stay warm (think newspaper, etc as a common material), they also don’t have the privilege of being able to wash their clothes very often. There could have been all sorts of things that compromise the flame retardancy of the clothing.
People don’t typically expect to be set on fucking fire while they sleep, so it’s not usually a risk to be concerned about.
The guy that did this is an absolute psycho
So we don’t know anything about this thug? Burning homeless people on the subway?!?! Republicans prolly prepping him to be a national celebrity
From Guatamala though, so expect the usual “alien” hate.
Fuck this guy, idc where the fuck he’s from. Wildly fucked up.
I’d rather hate the lack of mental health and support systems available. If it was just a random act of violence, he’s the suspect is just mentally unwell and you can’t really stop them without structural changes. It’s not hard to find articles and articles about homeless people attacking random people with bricks in NYC.
That plays into Trumps whole “they’re sending us their criminals and emptying their asylums” bullshit though. :(
Agreed that mental health care should be a guarantee just like “health care” because, well, it is health care.
But that won’t be the narrative from the “deport them all” crowd.
Watch the police do as little as possible over this. She was the opposite of a CEO.
In fairness, they did catch the guy pretty quickly.
They caught a guy, 3 days after after the killing in the surveillance state of a city that is NYC. And some compelling evidence they didn’t catch the killer but just some guy that might have been in a watch list.
I don’t know anything about this but in my misspent youth kids would take the regulator off adjustable disposable butane lighters and you could light the lighter and then basically pour the butane out of the lighter.
Something like that could surely ignite clothing and appear to be “just” a lighter.
Oh, yeah, that makes a ton more sense…
Nah, butane evaporates almost immediately at ambient temp/pressure.
Have you ever refilled a Zippo
… Yes. Why?
And you’ve never spilled butane from the Zippo fluid anywhere? It stays liquid long enough that one can go to a sink and wash it off.
Maybe you’re thinking of naphtha? That’s what old, cotton wick lighters used, but butane gasifies within 30s max. Might leave an odor/residue on your hands but that’s not particularly flammable.
Old skool lighter and the low pressure can of naphtha in the back, high pressure butane cylinder right:
Idk what to tell u buddy, the can in the picture on the right is specifically a butane refill can, and you can spray it on a surface and it’ll stay liquid for a bit. You can even light it on fire and it’ll stay that way. You can try the same thing with any pressurized can of deodorant for example, concentrated spraying for 3-5s on a surface will release enough liquid that you can light it on fire. Old party trick was to spray enough on a leg of pants (or an arm if daring) and light it, and then extinguish in a few seconds
but butane gasifies within 30s max
This leaves plenty of time to splash someone and light it while still qualifying “instant”.
I seem to remember a string of copycat attacks where lighter fluid or gas was sprayed inside a kiosk that contained a cashier or person taking tickets. Think there were several deaths.
Expect that an accelerant like gas or lighter fluid was used in this case. Doesn’t take much.
Monstrous thing to do.
Aren’t winter jackets very flammable?
Protip from a fire performer
Buy a boiled wool peacoat. You can put out a small fire with it. Thrift stores usually have em for like $20
Thanks! Wool really is a great material.
I’ve recently been enlightened to the benefits of merino wool. Wish it was more affordable.
No, I think they’re legally required to be self-extinguishing.
Most jackets today are cheap garbage shipped from china.
Sigh. I dunno man, point is, fuck this human-arson shitbag.
Thankfully used clothes don’t have to comply with the “woke” agenda, nor do hand-made clothes.
What?
Pretty sure they were using “woke” ironically.
That is what she gets for not being a POS CEO.
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Questioning the physics of the story as reported, not the victim. Clearly they’re absolutely blameless.
Feels like something is missing, either in the reporting or from the cops.
Wow, I have no idea how you saw that because I deleted it within seconds of writing it when I realized what you meant.
LOL, it got copied to my inbox. :) Wanted to make sure you knew I was not a monster. :)
I honestly said it before I even realized you wrote it and then I saw it was you and was like, “nah, there’s no possible way he’s victim blaming.” So sorry.
