Remember when rational people in 2020 said Biden was too old and did t have it in him to fight fascism?
And the DNC said the president doesn’t matter (but still had to be Biden) it was about the people they appoint.
Well, Bidens picks were Smith and Garland, and a bunch of other people who couldn’t get shit accomplished.
Everyone needs to remember how Biden worked out, because in four years the DNC will want to run someone just like him again. And if they do we’re fucked
An election in four years … I like your optimism and I hope you are right.
If it makes you feel any better, you’ll likely live long for the DNC to say the same thing against the next 5 Republicans, and maybe even a Dem candidate will get a death bed endorsement from Trump while Eric Trump goes on a rally your with the Dem candidate talking about how much the Republicans have lost their way since 2016…
Like, after Biden stepped down I told myself I’d vote D matter who like I always have. Because Biden had no shot in hell, and the DNC actually listened and I wanted to communicate that’s all we’ve been begging for.
But I remember GW, I remember Dick Cheney was the real problem and Lil Bush was just a distraction.
But Kamala still trotted Liz Cheney around, acted like her dad isn’t the biggest US war criminal in modern history, and tried to act like Trump was solitarily the one responsible. I still voted for her. But it ended up being harder than voting Hillary.
trump can drop dead as I’m typing this and not a damn thing will change.
I’ve lived through this series of events before. The vast majority of Americans have.
It’s going to suck and we’re going to lose ground, but there isn’t a cat wrangler alive that can get republicans to agree and work with themselves.
They’ll lose the House/Senate in two years. Maybe one, maybe both. But they won’t get anything accomplished and they do t have anyone else to blame to motivate their voters in midterms.
They’re going to have to eat that they got trump, the House, and Senate, and sure as shit aren’t going to fix what they told voters they’d fix.
Stop saying the fight is over because neo liberals didn’t get everything they wanted.
Start working on fighting our own party next primary so we have a chance of getting what America needs. If another neoliberal gets into the general, hold your nose and hope enough other people do too to mitigate damage.
Regardless of anything that happens, giving up is never going to work.
Fight every fight like it’s the last, and no matter what happens treat the next one the same. This is what fighting fascism actually looks like, not voting once every four years.
Liz Cheney has absolutely nothing to do with Harris losing. According to the polls and everyone I know that voted and even those that didn’t vote.
User name checks out. Thanks for giving a fuck and not posting the same endless whining and bad takes I’ve seen so much of.
I am a perpetual optimist…
And when looking back at the last 8 years, at least 2016-2020 when the president was fucking up, everyone I’d run into tended to agree.
Bidens term though when I was upset about anything, I’d either get gaslight that it’s not a problem or the only people agreeing with me never looked past the letter next to Biden’s name when deciding if they should complain about what he was doing.
So I’m still gonna be complaining about the same shit, I’ll still verbalize what I think will work…
But in the next four years people are going to act like I’ve done a 180, because the concept of actually holding both parties to an equal standard is that unheard of in America today. People like me still exist, it’s just a whole hell of a lot of us had their final straw when Dems closed rank to protect Bill Clinton lying under oath.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/did-clinton-lie-under-oath/
The 1/3 of the country that doesn’t vote aren’t in the middle of our two parties on any spectrum. They’re looking at the parties on a measure of integrity and trustworthiness. And found both lacking.
Republicans aren’t going to run someone that meets that standard, so all Dems have to do to win a presidential election is put up the only candidate who meets that standard in a general election. Stop focusing on “better than Republicans” and focus on “good enough for our voters”.
Yelling at them to vote D doesn’t work, so why not trying to give them what they want? It’s better for all of us anyways.
The 1/3 of the country that doesn’t vote aren’t in the middle of our two parties on any spectrum. They’re looking at the parties on a measure of integrity and trustworthiness. And found both lacking.
You claim non voters saw the felon Trump and Harris and said to themselves “both sides are the same, I’m not voting”?!
This reeks of republican talking point.
Bullshit. The DNC said nothing. Biden wiped the floor with every other candidate in that primary fair and square. Maybe blame the voters or rather the people who couldn’t be assed to come out.
Why is it that every time Trump gets away with corruption you try to turn it into FUD towards democrats?
It’s chronic with that user. The Boost app allows you to tag usernames and it’s very helpful for tracking bad faith accounts.
Ya, it’s been pretty obvious for a while and I don’t even use boost or keep track.
You can’t lay that on Smith. He accomplished a lot. But, no surprise, a Trump judge derailed it.
Key detail: they’re not dropping it because they’re giving up, the judge dismissed it without prejudice, which means that in 4 years they can pick the case back up. Under a Trump DoJ the case would likely have ended with prejudice, closing it permanently.
A distinction without a difference
. “This outcome is not based on the merits or strength of the case against the defendant.”
We know, but we also know that Trump and his sycophants will use the argument that Trump “won” and it was baseless, political persecution, etc.
The not prosecuting a sitting president is a shitty policy written to avoid baseless lawsuits and applied to help fascists rise to power.
The way I see this, they are stopping the proceedings so Trump’s AG won’t be able to end them officially, so they might be able to resume in four years.
Why are you afraid to admit trump won? Can you still not see democrats lost the election? They were the ones we put our faith in and they came up short, again.
Let’s be clear here. The blame doesn’t go to the campaign. The blame doesn’t go to the voters. The blame is squarely on leadership for not leading. Which leadership? Any one with D after their name that wasn’t on the streets raising hell the last 4 years. Anyone with a D after their name who cashed their government funded check and never thought about how most Americans make fractions what they do and they can barely get by.
No this is a top down failure. The party wants so badly wants to be the GOP they will settle for letting the GOP win.
I don’t think the person you are responding to is talking about Trump winning the election like you are. Unless I am misunderstanding, it sounds like they are saying that Republicans will point to this case being dropped as a win and that they were right all along. In other words, they will say that the Democrats were just unfairly trying to prosecute Trump, and dropping the case proves they had no evidence (even though that isn’t why the case was dropped).
Bro what the hell are you talking about. This is about the outcome of the election subversion case (which was 2020), not the outcome of the election (2024).
Legal justice has become a pipedream. The only options with any real chance of happening are vigilante justice or no justice.
I mean, we all saw this coming.
It still feels weird that you can’t jail someone in 4 years even if you prove they are guilty.
Americans should be rioting in the streets, let him serve from jail.
Feckless.
I honestly can’t be mad. America voted. If anyone has the audacity to be upset when America falls to lawlessness and didn’t vote to punish trump i cannot be concerned.
Fucking pussy
I dont think you understand the situation.
The DOJ cannot try a sitting president as matter of policy. If he continued the trial against policy then there is a good chance more judge delays and stays push it out until trump is president and he makes it go away, especially if he gets it dismissed with prejudice. If he drops it now it has the chance to be re-tried again when trumppeacefully gives up powerleaves office in 4 years time.Legal eagle on youtube did a whole video explaining the situation in depth if you want a qualified explanation.
