TikTok has been pushing Chinese propaganda to millions of users in Europe: analysis::More than 1,000 ads from Chinese state media outlets have run on European users’ TikTok feeds since October 2022, according to the platform’s latest ad library update that was analyzed by Forbes.

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    The NYPost (low-quality tabloid) is just echoing an actual article at Forbes, which can also be accessed in archive form here.

    In general, when a low-quality tabloid site merely reports on the existence of research done by actual reporters, it’s better to follow the links and post the researched article instead of the tabloid one.

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    See that other article on the NYPost next to this one? A guy turned himself into a border collie? He’s a dog now and it only cost $20,000.

    Great news source. No problems here. Not click bait garbage at all. Nope, not meant for maximum sharing. Thanks L4sBot for your contribution.

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    This is one of the huge reasons why online privacy is so important, even when you “don’t have someting to hide.” Those big tech data hogging shit companies manipulate you without you knowing.

    But honestly, if you use TikTok unironically, this is totally on you.

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      What does it mean to use TikTok ironically? How is that different from using it normally?

      Tiktok has 1 billion users. Whatever message they decide to push is going to propagate through the masses. I don’t think most people have the ability to notice and deflect misinformation like you’re implying.

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    Breaking news! Chinese company runs ads paid for by Chinese government! Did anyone think otherwise? All governments pay for ads. Who in their right mind would think a Chinese company would refuse their government as an ad customer?

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      Ads are one thing but state propaganda is something different. In a US political context this would be like the State of Florida running “Ads” on Facebook discussing how slavery was actually beneficial to the slaves. Get it now?

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        In Florida the people who own the politicians own the media companies, it is probably worse because people like you can’t tell the difference.

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        Right. It certainly happens to the West. But the governments in Western democracy have to be a bit more subtle when it comes to their propaganda and not run this stuff directly.

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      You’re not necessarily wrong in all respects, but this comment is peak whataboutism. Western tiktok is targeted mostly at children and young adults who are obviously highly impressionable, so I would argue that regardless of whats happening on any other social media platform, this is unwanted and harmful and therefore shouldn’t be accepted.

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        The difference is there is American federal policy being put in place around TikTok specifically that is not being done against other social media apps.

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          Yea when people organize an attempted coup on Chinese tiktok, your point may hold more water. Not saying it’s a good thing, but it’s clear that Facebook et al’s primary motive is not promoting nationalistic goals; domestically or aboard.

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        Whataboutism is the correct and logical answer to hypocrites. There is nothing that Tiktok is guilty of that Twitter or Instagram aren’t.

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          For sure. Instagram Reels and YouTube Shorts are all functionally identical and equally concerning as TikTok in every way, and Xitter is trying to jump onto that too.

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              As an American, I can say that my government sucks for invading Iraq and Afghanistan and face no repercussions. I did so before those wars and have done so repeatedly since.

              As a Chinese citizen, I can be arrested for singing a song about Hong Kong. Or saying that Tibet isn’t China, or that Taiwan should be left alone. God forbid I ask about what’s happening in Xinjiang. Or what happened in Beijing in 1989, or why the Great Leap Forward resulted in so many deaths of my countrymen. Or practicing Flaun Dafa, or whatever else.

              Nobody is saying the US is perfect: the US has its problems, we can and should be better. But China is never honest about their shit and punishes people who are. China’s markedly worse than the US.

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                They let you complain about Iraq and Afghanistan because your complaints are irrelevant. You have no power to change policy.

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                  I have free speech rights under the constitution. That’s not the case in China.

                  Don’t shift the goal posts - there’s a huge difference between the countries, and China is strictly worse.

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      Facebook ran ads paid for by Russian propagandists which IMO is far worse than a Chinese company running Chinese ads.

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    TikTok is garbage, but perhaps we should look at all the ridiculous right wing propaganda pushed by YouTube, Facebook and Twicough X

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      YouTube is absolutely dreadful for it. I have literally zero interest in American politics, I’m interested in world events but frankly couldn’t care less about another country’s domestic politics yet it’s pushed almost every time I load the site.

      I mostly watch things like travel vlogs and trip reports, yet get endless spam about right wing American politics. There’s nothing in my search history that would suggest I’d care about it.

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        The advertisers cater adverts to target demographics and search/web history. While you may not be interested in them, they are certainly interested in you for some reason. They could be bad at their jobs, but it’s more likely there is some overlap there.

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          It’s the YouTube algorithm that’s pushing this garbage and it’s blatantly obvious, the actual adverts largely line up with my interests. If I don’t watch a YouTuber for a couple of weeks they disappear from my reccommed. I never watch anything about American politics, barely watch any American YouTubers yet there it is every single time without fail.

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      Only use Twitter reddit. I’m getting pissed off eith both. More shit. I understand they are all “free”, but I still want a basic standard.

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      noooo we have only facts and truth! Only the bad guys lie and do teh ebil propeganda. Oh wait who blew up the Nord Stream? Anyway the us said it was the spoopy russians. Really sorry that german industries got shot in the legs, and don’t you look at who stands to gain by that.

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    Yeah, yeah, it’s Chinese government propaganda, but isn’t all advertisement basically propaganda? “Everything is rosy in Xinjiang” is a harmful lie, but so is “if you buy a big-ass truck you’ll be a manly man” and frankly I think the latter is causing a lot more damage because it’s one that people act on.

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      “Everything is rosy in Xinjiang”

      That’s not the extent of what they do. They absolutely push harmful ideas that people can act upon as well.

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      We could focus on the problems of our own country, and maybe try and solve them in some capacity. But why do that when we can look far away, at problems that don’t affect us in the slightest? Usually it boils down to “I’m not doing good, but they are doing much worse”. It’s a soothing balm, that takes away the need to go irl and do something.

      TLDR: we’re lazy.

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    There is no currently no actual evidence that TikTok is a threat to national security, but consider this:

    1. TikTok is owned by Chinese company
    2. All large Chinese companies are required to have Party members in the board, making them defacto state-run
    3. PR China is currently committing genocide, large-scale espionage, subversion of foreign countries and all sorts of fun stuff associated with authoritarian fascist dictatorships
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      have you seen what videos are posted there? Fucking social media like this, reddit, twitter, instagram and facebook is a huge issue for everyone 😅

      we definitely would be better off without them

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      Those 3 points sound like a reason to be a threat to national secuirry for any nation that’s not golfing buddies with China.

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    Not saying it’s a lie, but sourcing from NYPost is automatically a huge red flag.

    I’ll put more stock in this when it’s reported by reputable outlets.

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    No big surprise here. It’s been their agenda since the start. Only consumers are fucking stupid for taking it in.

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        Don’t need nypost articles. This has been common knowledge for years now, basically since it’s been knowledge that it’s been Chinese. Just look at the whole huwei incident.

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    I’d rather read Chinese state propaganda than the Murdoch’s New York Post. That is Corporate propaganda

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        The capitalist class and corporate owners of the New York Post are absolutely committing cultural genocide across the entire world with their financial empire and military that maintains order with overwhelming force and nuclear terror.

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          If I don’t then people will say “oh it’s not actually genocide because they aren’t exterminating anybody”.

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    Are you worried about your rising cost of living, decreasing living standards, wages and the total global catastrophe that is climate change?

    Don’t worry about that prole, worry about aliens and tiktok!