They’re rapidly being converted into generators to meet A.I.’s insatiable demand for electricity. Environmentalists call it a step backward.

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    5 days ago

    Since jet fuel is a very similar grade of fuel to diesel, is this where all the diesel is going and why diesel prices are astronomical now? I know the wars are also not helping, but I wouldn’t be surprised if this is contributing too.

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      Contributing, yes. In a meaningful way to prices, no. Both the supply and transportation (boats, routes, pipes) of fuel have been reduced.

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        You are months outdated. The oil volume is back to normal long ago. What drives prices now is risk/volatility and insurance rates sailing into the gulf.

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    Doesn’t jet engines still use leaded fuel?

    Aside from the fact that these are built for max. thrust and not max. efficiency, I think lead should be the primary concern here

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      I lived in a city with an air force base for a while. People had bumper stickers pointing out that they “Love Jet Noise” and that it is the sound of freedom.

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        There are people, it is true—nay, a great many people—who smile at such things, because they are not sensitive to noise; but they are just the very people who are also not sensitive to argument, or thought, or poetry, or art, in a word, to any kind of intellectual influence. The reason of it is that the tissue of their brains is of a very rough and coarse quality.

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    Wow this can’t be efficient. Jet engines are primarily designed to produce thrust. But looks like Musk got special permission from the state to pollute more, so all’s good!

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      Not really, the core of a modern turbofan produces rotational energy to drive the fan, the hot part of the engine produces little to no thrust.

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      This isn’t something new. Jet engines have been converted to power use for decades because once they are beyond the aircraft service life they are still useful for generating power

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    I was just wondering what would be the most expensive question you can ask AI in a free tier.

    Lets put those engines to work and have a little more deficit.

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        Yes, but he free tier becomes too expensive to maintain and they have to end it or restrict it, AI will have much harder time to get properly mainstream.

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          AI will have much harder time to get properly mainstream.

          If that’s your goal, I don’t think it is worth the effort. I think that ship has sailed. AI isn’t going away. Ruining one companies free tier product isn’t going to stop AI adoption by the world.

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            There are geographical differences. Locally i can only see larger adoption in music and software industry. Everywhere else there are just low tier chatbots doing really simple customer service stuff.

            AI industry needs the “average Joe” to get dependant on his personal agent that his paying for. I’m not seeing that yet on any level.

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              Locally i can only see larger adoption in music and software industry. Everywhere else there are just low tier chatbots doing really simple customer service stuff.

              There really is a large adoption of AI inside businesses going on. So much of the products and services we may consume are AI generated or AI augmented somewhere along the lines even if the end customer isn’t seeing it.

              AI industry needs the “average Joe” to get dependant on his personal agent that his paying for. I’m not seeing that yet on any level.

              Think about smart TVs. Today they are customer spying devices that you have to pay for and put in your home if you want to interact with most of the video entertainment world. The sales pitch and business plan for Smart TVs didn’t start out that way, but here we are today. If you go to any retailer that sells TVs you might have ZERO choices of non-Smart TV.

              I can see AI going that direction for “average Joe”. Its not a product that Joe seeks out, but rather the product or service he’s been using up to now gets deprecated and his only alternative is the new AI version the company sells. Joe doesn’t need to want AI, it may end up being included in the only options to him on the market.