if he can run so can obama.
That’s not how it works. The law applies to Democrats, not to the Ruling Party.
Obama has absolutely no interest in this shit show. That’s half the joke of the current state of the Presidency. You need to either be a grifter, a soulless climber, or a senile coot to pursue the job at this point.
If there’s still a Constitution by then.
In the third term, he’s gonna lower the price of gas and groceries & end the wars in Ukraine/Iran. Day 1. Bigly.
Honestly, I support it. It’ll be like the election of 1912 where Roosevelt and Taft split the Republican vote enough that the Democrat Wilson was elected.
Democrats ran their modern version of Wilson in 2020. It went about as well as in 1913.
And the 4th and the 5th time
The good die young and ducks live forever.
No chance he lives that long
With his unhealthy life style he should have died a decade ago
Trump’s going to be kicking it into the triple digits. He and Senator Grassley are going to be tweeting at each other into the election of 2040.
Cool. How about those Epstein files?
No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice
Those are the exact words of the 22nd amendment. It’s explicit. There’s no ambiguity or room for other interpretations. Trump was elected twice, he’s hit his limit, that’s it.
Im sure he could make a convincing argument that he isnt a person and therefore should be allowed to sit for a third term.
Unless somebody stops him, he’ll do it. All the people that are supposed to check or balance his power are his minions.
There is wiggle room in some amendments but this one seems pretty fucking clear.
No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice
This is why is fun to own a whole ass supreme court:
No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice
Words are fun for this guy
Trump appointed president for his 3rd term
Therefore, by his own logic, he shouldn’t be in office right now, because he won in 2020, riiiight?
Yes, and none of that prohibits him from running for office again. The only prohibition is that he cannot be elected a third time. But here’s the thing: we don’t actually vote for President; we vote for who our Electors elect as President, and they are Constitutionally prohibited from electing Trump to a third term. If Trump runs and “wins”, the Electors cannot elect him. He can win 0 Electoral votes. Doesn’t matter what their States’ laws require because the Constitution is the highest law in the land… until SCOTUS rules the 22nd Amendment violates the 10th Amendment. 🤷🏻♂️
It doesn’t matter what it says when neither courts nor law enforcement will enforce it. Looks like we’re running out of democracy boxes.
There’s still one more box after November’s election.
There’s wiggle room, he’s claiming a right to campaign. To run… He’s not saying anything about being elected.
He doesn’t actually do the electing. That’s up to public, and the officials who are in charge of elections (who he’ll try to stack with loyalists). He can’t say what they’ll do.
He runs, and if others elect him… Well… That’s the wiggle room.
That’s not wiggle room, it’s violating the Constitution. Not saying it can’t happen, but it’s not like that’s a logic loophole, it’s just not caring about acting illegally.
The Constitution specifically doesn’t call out Trump so…
/s
Arrest. Charge. Try. Convict. Execute.
Him and everyone who propped up that sack of shit.
Skip to the end.
Can we just skip to the end? We all know the results of the middle steps.
Who’s going to do the first step though? The police? The police that are bought and paid for by the people that should be arrested? The police that are actively murdering people in the streets instead of defending them?
I keep seeing this “arrest them” and “put them in jail for life” sentiment but nobody has a valid argument of how to do that in our current system without getting disappeared.
No you don’t fuckface
Term limits are trivial to bypass. Same with limitations based on age or the born citizen requirement.
Authoritarians figured this out ages ago. You just get a patsy to run instead. Consider the example of Lurleen Wallace. Her husband, arch-segregationist George Wallace, was term limited per the Alabama constitution. So she ran instead, openly announcing her intention to simply serve as a figurehead. Wallace effectively got another term. She technically was the governor during her term, but George held all the real power. Putin did something similar to get around Russia’s term limits.
Sure, if you do this, you have to worry about your figurehead betraying you and seizing real power for themselves, but this is pretty easy to address. You select someone for the patsy role who has absolutely no political power, charisma, or likeability of their own. Someone who could never possibly win an election on their own. Someone from your own patronage network that will remain completely dependent on you.
Imagine if they run someone like Jared Kushner. He is completely and utterly dependent on Trump for his future and livelihood. He has no real political base of his own. Nobody is out there clamoring for President Kushner. If he ran on his own, he wouldn’t make it past the first week of the primary. But if he ran as a figurehead? Openly saying, “I’m just here to sit in the chair. I’ll do whatever Donald wants. My job is to hold the pen and sign what I’m told to sign. I’m willing to do this because I trust Donald’s judgment.” He could actually have a shot that way. At least Trump’s base would go for it. And Trump would have him completely under his control. Again, Kushner’s political and financing fortunes are entirely dependent on staying in Donald’s good graces. Kushner could in theory get elected and tell Trump, “get the hell out of my office, I’m president now,” but that simply wouldn’t be practically possible.
It is not trivial. Of course a precondition is that term limits are absolute, that means no interruption nonsense. You can still have a sock puppet but legally that sock puppet is in power then. That is super dangerous for a fascist regime because betrayal is a real risk then. Putin was also super nervous about it, even if it worked out for him.
The main thing about those absolute term limits is however to add friction to the perversion of a democratic constitution. If voters are ready to accept it, it is too late anyway, but it makes it just a bit harder to justify the actions, while the constitution is not completely overthrown yet.
I get the plan from your example, but the “figurehead” you’ve selected in your example is probably not the best choice, as he is from the ethnic group that they believe to be entirely consistent of political operatives bent on controlling the world. I dont know that they would vote for a Jewish person even as a Trump stand-in. They would need to run someone with no discernible ethnic ties to a country other than the US. J.D. Vance is probably that guy; he’s so nondescript that he doesn’t even have a whole name.
He doesn’t, obviously, per law.
Though law no longer matters and he will anyway, if he doesn’t die before then, which I think he will since his dementia is so advanced. But whatever.
Section 1. No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once. But this Article shall not apply to any person holding the office of President when this Article was proposed by the Congress, and shall not prevent any person who may be holding the office of President, or acting as President, during the term within which this Article becomes operative from holding the office of President or acting as President during the remainder of such term.
Section 2. This Article shall be inoperative unless it shall have been ratified as an amendment to the Constitution by the legislatures of three-fourths of the several states within seven years from the date of its submission to the states by the Congress.[3]
Funny how 2/3 of it is boilerplate and grandfathering.
Trump never cared for your constitution so far, what makes you believe he’ll start now?
I wish he would
Right?! Are we fucking crazy? Please god, do it. Run. After the first term people crawled out of caves to vote against him. This midterm you have Texas districts turning out voting numbers that almost match the general election.
Yeah, fucking run a 3rd time under the least popular campaign in history with 70% of the populace hating you. The last time at least 2 people tried to kill him.
I fucking dare him. I double dare him!
What would happen if he would run as (shudder) Vice President?
Putin did this one time right? With Medelev
