I sort of understand malignant narcissism and its early victims. I’ll never understand the suckers who fall for it again after it’s been clearly and publicly exposed. Idiots are going to give this POS more money for a new project, if they haven’t already.
Edit: I’m not talking about Fielder. I’m talking about the inevitable investors.
god i miss her
Wait wait wait, that’s the real Elizabeth Holmes speaking with the real Nathan Fielder?
Dude what the fuck is this timeline?
I didn’t know what she looked like before this, but I recognized Nathan Fielder and assumed this was acted. Nope!
Apparently she requested his crew to make this documentary, and he even lived with her and her husband for a while to do it. Absolutely insane.
And I believe its a REAL documentary too.
Everything about her is fake. It was when she defrauded investors, her speaking voice, and apparently her goddamn facial expressions too.
Edit: I don’t think shes acting. I think she’s dissociating.
I saw the trailer and was thinking why the fuck is this a documentary. Now understand. She is psycho and has those crazy eyes. Think there a baby in the background too.
To anyone wanting a teaser at the upcoming documentary:
That is unnerving
With no context it would be a horror movie trailer.
Me watching the first part of the trailer: “Why is she wearing an expression as if she is wearing a mask?”
My autistic ass after: “oh, fuck, she’s the bad guy”
I have definitely had the reverse experience. Ends up meaning certain positions are off limits, have to be gentle and careful with every thrust. It’s not a great experience for either of you.
Yep, my ex was giant and I wasn’t the first partner of hers to complain about it
There are silicone sleeve/ring things out there for sale that can act like a spacer if you wear it at your base.
Bumpin into the ol cervix eh.
If it’s long enough it goes where it belongs, behind the cervix 🤤
That’s not how female anatomy works.
They might be talking about the A or P spot. Anterior and posterior Fornix or however it’s spelled
The fuck is that emoji for
lol I would say it was a boxing match.
So I floated this video between LICSW and LPCC friends independently. All said she looked like she was in complete dissociation. The give away is apparently her voice?
The smile looks fake, but thats a “passive distant smile.” As in she’s completely withdrawn into a protective state. Her eyes only focus on the DIRECTION of Nathan, not Nathan himself.
Whatever happened prior to that clip caused her to severely dissociate.
Nah, those are just the eyes of a true narcissist. I know one and can clock that look a mile away.
Two things can be true. And if this is dissociation, a challenge to her self-image could have easily done it.
I found myself isolated to a relationship for 18ish years with one. I could write a book on narcissistic personality disorder. That’s why I sent it to my friends who are professionals in this. I thought I recognized it.
That makes sense I’ve learned the “BPD stare” by having experiences that make it terrifying for me.
Yep. It’s a trauma response, basically removes her conscious awareness to protect herself. Essentially prevents compounding exisiting trauma.
Personality disorders run in families, but are almost always environmentally caused - abused parent with PD abuses child who develops PD. But even then, the abuse can be caused by others too.
The little I know about her history - her family was obsessed with the status/wealth they were legacy to. Presumably, they could have traumatized her into believing wealth by any means necessary was the only way she would get the care her inner child needed.
As part of that - the narcissist would then be completely enveloped in awareness of their image and how others perceived them. They accepted no flaw, and if they could not fix a weakness, they found a way to avoid that flaw all together. Their ENTIRE identity then revolves around something they project on to others. They withdraw completely when faced with something they cannot use cognitive dissonance and blame to avoid. That means they usually LACK self-identity at all.
Its REALLY sad if you think about it. But the damage they do to other people isn’t ignorable. They are horrible in the way they treat and perceive others.
Yeah I have a history of disassociation as well (yay cptsd), but I’ve noticed a particular way it looks in cluster b folks, and it’s more clear the less healthy they are. (A friend who underwent enough dbt to have it be hard to tell she has bpd didn’t have the look at all.) I think it’s partly that they’re disassociating anticipatorally and in situations where they’re going in and out.
And yeah BPD and NPD are really similar in a lot of ways. My father is a narcissist and he had a violent childhood that drove him to seek status and control. Very similarly the BPD folks I’ve got scars from had rough childhoods as well, even the one who lied about every aspect of her past. They struggle with identity and self care and struggle to deal with distress without disassociating or attacking.
I’m sympathetic to cluster b folks, I’m incredibly grateful I managed to leave my childhood without being one of them. I wish them all great treatment and can be friends with many once they’ve gotten control of themselves and their emotions and are mostly asymptomatic. And I feel awful for the burdens their diagnoses and conditions leave on them throughout life. But also I can’t be the damage left behind in their wakes anymore.
If anyone with a cluster b personality disorder is reading this or anyone reading this feels like they might have one, DBT works when you commit to it and do all the work. It’ll be slow and it’ll hurt, but it saves lives especially for people with bpd. It can give you the tools to stop hurting yourself and others. Those of us who’ve been hurt by folks with cluster b disorders want the people with them to heal and learn to stop hurting people.
You’re last statement there is why I speak up about it. They can get help. They need to get help. For all the victims it can save. If these things are just discussed as blanket “sociopaths can’t be cured” then we just enable the abuse of more victims.
Yeah it’s why I’m so vocal about it too. I’ve seen multiple friends deal with long term trauma from the same person. And I also watched them start improving, and they seem a lot better last I ran into them. But I do also want to call out that it’s also about saving their lives, because for all the damage done, I do want what’s best for them. Up to 10% of people with BPD will die by suicide, treatment in bpd focused therapy reduces the risk. NPD is less established in both risk and effectiveness (in large part because they’re way less likely to seek treatment or be honest with medical professionals)
But yeah, best of luck with your healing. Part of me really wishes there was a community on here for recovering from abuse by folks in the cluster b, parents, partners, and otherwise
What film?
I can see everything.
dudes worry about their dick size too much. i don’t have a 12" dong, yet every woman I’ve been with before told me it could be a bit smaller and that they’re struggling with it
The woes of having an 11" dong
not nearly close, but i can appreciate a good joke
Women can barely handle my 10" dong.
go fuck yourself. not everyone is from a country where pedophilia is normal
maybe next time you shouldn’t humble brag about your various sexual partners sexual organs?
I’ve heard the first half before. 🤷
