But you’ll need a powerful system with 64GB of RAM to use it.

Microslop thinks that “Clutter free” means “bundled with an always on LLM” 😸

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    The goal, really, is to cut the crud out of Windows to create a more Linux-like experience.

    but

    for powerful developer hardware with 64GB of RAM and gobs of memory bandwidth.

    ???

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      If their idea of distraction-free requires 64GB of RAM, they’re pretty lost as a company.

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    Clearly, the focus is on local AI development — a timely move as cloud AI token costs start to rise.

    This is called burying the lede.

    If Microsoft knows this cloud-based AI thing is a bust and people will be moving to local models that are not controlled by Microsoft or OpenAI or Anthropic, then it’s only a few months before Satya tells his investors buddies and the bubble pops.

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      I find this unlikely… IMO I think they are hedging in both directions.

      Personally I like the idea of local AI. open source models that you an control, decide, and use smartly, sort your things etc… and not pay an absurd cost or link up.

      Personally I think MS is actually betting on the opposite. IE they had a prototype windows that was basically just an AI prompt, no start menu etc… and applications just “streamed”.

      IMO I think that’s more of the goal, use the data center buildout to drive up hardware prices, until people cannot afford a basic PC. Sell thin clients… then sell us “access” to compute in a form where we own nothing, but pay by the processes used etc…

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        I agree it’s a hedge, but I think it’s a pretty big admission that the writing is on the wall.

        Given how much Windows has invested in cloud AI, that they are encouraging developers–the sweetest plum, the people most likely to pay for cloud AI–a local environment is a pretty big admission. This is the sort of thing corporations that have the ability to control markets don’t do unless they think the market is going to leave them behind.

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    You need 64 GB or RAM to use it? Seems like it’s just a marketing gimmick to find dumb developers who can afford 64GB of RAM in the first place. Kind of like that “I am Rich” app…

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        I have 128gb. I didn’t need 128gb but it was a good deal and thought fuck it, i spent too much into AM4 anyway might as well go all in and not bother with AM5 for another four years if ever.

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          I rarely manage to time anything correctly for market fluctuations, but for once I hit it right on the head when I built this machine last summer.

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      it’s 64gb so you can run local ai models to ‘re-clutter’ your windows experience.

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      I am curious, how many of the Lemmy/piefed/mbin servers can meet this requirement. I know only lemmy.world that does.

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    Is this their follow up to the wildly successful Project Test Everything In Production?

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    If it was “clutter free”, it would not need 64GB. It might even work with 4GB or less.

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    Win 11 IOT enterprise LTSC already exists and doesn’t even require a TPM.

    Unless this is a legitimate channel for regular users to get IOT enterprise LTSC, this is a non-story. The thing we want already exists, they just refuse to sell it.

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    It will be interesting to see what the price point is for Zenith, and the hardware needed to run it.

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    I would pay like big bucks for a no nonsense interference that just ran shit i wanted without 900 services doing god knows what