They really are speedrunning how fast were gonna Bastille their asses
This is why I can’t be angry at regular criminals, they’re just mimicking the world they see at the top.
That’s wealth redistribution.
I ordered a pair of boots from Mexico, they were shipped with all of the correct paperwork and should not have been tariffed at all. It added ~$60 to the original cost of $170.
When you submit a tariff refund request they warn you multiple times that if your submission is rejected you will be charged $100 per submission. It can be rejected for making a mistake on the paperwork even if they find the tariff was applied incorrectly. I almost didn’t submit for it, and a lot of people won’t but I decided to risk it. That was a few months ago and I still haven’t heard back.
And you never will. Thanks for playing The Decline of Democracy and Sanity.
We pay. Then we pay again.
It’s as simple as that and just as fucked up. Our so-called government does not work for us.
Socialize the losses, privatazie the games. It’s crazy when people complain about socialism while these billionaire companies get to reap the best parts of it.
Which is why it needs to be burnt, and then built better.
As per its original design
“Pay to play? You mean the peasants get to play? Why?”
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This was so obvious that anyone paying attention could see this coming a mile away. I’m probably the unpopular opinion, but I think the government should have just not issued any refunds. I would rather the government get funds to potentially use for social welfare than to give it back to businesses. The only problem is that would create an incentive for the government to try it again for another quick payday. Some mechanism would have to be put into place to stop this. Take away the power from the president to issue tarrifs on his own. Which we should probably do anyway.
Let’s be honest. The highest estimates I find are around $160 billion in illegal tariffs. If we split that evenly it would work out to around $640 for every person over 18 in the country.
What good would giving 250 million people each $640 do? For 99% of them it would be gone as soon as they got it. They’d waste it on things like rent, bills, food, gas money. Temporary things. Within a month almost no one would have anything to show for it.
But giving a relative handful of large companies hundreds of millions to several billion dollars each? For them it’s pure profit. Their bills are already paid. They’ve already used the profits from that year for stock buybacks to get their wealthy shareholders more money and divided the rest giving their executives huge bonuses. And now suddenly they all have huge amounts more profit almost out of thin air.
It’s money to invest in AI to replace human labor so the coming years can be even better, to do even more stock buybacks so that the people who own the most stock in each company see huge increases in their net worth, or do give CEOS a second round of yearly bonus. Months and years from now there will still be amazing homes, yachts, private islands, and new faces that we’ll all be able to point to as the lasting good that came from this.
Man for a second I thought you were serious and was getting my pitchfork ready. Bravo.
I mean… don’t put it away. You should still take the opportunity to make sure it’s nicely rusty and dull. We do need everyone to have them ready. That sarcastic message of mine is still describing what the government and corporations actually did to us. And they’re not raping and killing their own kids. Well… they probably are raping their own kids too. But not killing or possibly eating them.
Since they’re now all in charge of investigating and arresting themselves and their buddies and passing laws to stop their own blatant corruption it seems that us stepping in with pitchforks might be necessary very soon.
What good would giving 250 million people each $640 do?
You say that, but something a lot like that already happened: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_Stimulus_Act_of_2008
Most taxpayers below the income limit received a rebate of at least $300 per person ($600 for married couples filing jointly). Eligible taxpayers received, along with their individual payment, $300 per dependent child under the age of 17. The payment was equal to the payer’s net income tax liability, but could not exceed $600 (for a single person) or $1200 (married couple filing jointly)
Most everyone I knew spent it on HDTVs. Economic stimulus indeed.
You think I don’t rem… oh Christ, it was 18 years ago? There really are people here who wouldn’t remember it.
Yes. I know. I’m sort of surprised anyone could read my post and not see all the sarcasm. I do not really believe that spending money on food or rent is wasting it. It’s needing to use that money in order to keep living. Companies getting it all to make the rich richer and buy yachts and new faces is not something I actually consider to be better.
Your argument amounts to “you dont get your stolen money back because you will spend it irresponsibly.”
Thats sovcit-level quackery.
You ate at the onion.
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Sorry, that response wasn’t for this post, it was for another one. I’m not sure why it went to yours.
Even if it was $6, refunding it to us and showing a little respect for a major cash grab fuck up would work wonders.
I kicked a trumper out of my D&D group after I finally got of tolerating his shit. He thought Trump would be better for our economy. No regrets.
We should be doing a lot more than kicking them out of social groups. They’re traitors to our nation who are degrading our quality of life.
But we do what we can on an individual basis. I applaud you. I’ve removed all of them from my life as well. One of the best moves I’ve ever made.
Just wondering how many more times in my life I’m going to watch dipshit Republicans make dipshit moves that require dipshit bailouts that aren’t for the people paying for the dipshit bailouts.
The civilised world has always sneered at 'Murica
But now we look upon the disaster with great pity for those who have been unfortunately born there who deserve better
The truth is, God is a unified field of consciousness that arose from the supersymmetry of the ever-present, eternal emptiness to then fold in and on Itself across eleven dimensions to form a topological matrix that acts as a monadic nodal communication system, and short of understanding that, you should be a little bitch and act on what your sorry ass thinks is the nature of the universe. It’s rather quite simple to understand.
Never mix Robitussin and speed, this always happens.
Did you have fun this weekend?
Naw. I took too much of the good stuff and I wound up seeing god again. Ruined a perfectly good trip. It was awful.
I’ve never been a weed person, probably because it seemed to make people tired and hungry and as a fat kid I was already tired and hungry anyway. Seemed like a waste of money. If I was going to break the law to take a chemical then it damn well better make me see tiny aliens crawling out of the cat’s mouth. And I didn’t have a cat.
Sober, minus a little beer and weed, you prejudiced ki.
Prejudiced against what? People raving gibberish while being a cunt to others by calling them little bitches?
No, I do that as a result of how I’ve been treated for twelve years, where I have repeatedly said God is a unified field of consciousness that arose from the supersymmetry of the ever-present, eternal emptiness to then fold in and on Itself across eleven dimensions to form a topological matrix that acts as a monadic nodal communication system, and in the process of explaining this, I get called retarded, freak, stupid, idiot, and allsorts of shot you choose to call innocent people because you don’t TRY to understand
I call you a childish cunt because I have written seven million words, and it’s still not enough to get you on my level. Here’s your opportunity to prove me wrong. Try to understand me. You won’t. By default, I’m your enemy, and YOU ALL have made me this way. I’m intentionally goading you. You do what you do because you’re an animal who has no choice.
You haven’t written more than me, or read more than me, and you certainly haven’t studied more than me. I’m not goaded, but I am sure that something is very wrong with you. There is no way to say that without it reading as an insult, but that isn’t the intent. Things go wrong with our minds sometimes, and we can need a hand to get them back on track. It’s not something to be ashamed of or insulted by.
The only level you are on is the one in which you are in genuine need of talking to a mental health professional and sharing all of these things with them as soon as you possibly can. You are unwell. The only thing your text reminds me of is how a person acts when they stop taking the medication they need or develop a severe mental health problem later in life and don’t go get treatment. Or those who stay awake for days on end taking amphetamines and get stuck completely focused trying to have long spiritual conversations with AI. Regardless of which is true in your case, none of those are paths that end well, and they are all things that you can get help with.
No one is trying to understand because the thing you’ve been repeatedly saying is gibberish nonsense. You’re using jargon from theoretical physics to try to dress it up to sound meaningful and intelligent, but the M-theory is nothing more than a mathematical framework that’s useful because it’s one of very few that we’ve come up with that helps to correlate general relativity with quantum mechanics.
It’s a thing with zero empirical proof for it’s actual accuracy as a description of reality, and it’s also considered unfalsifiable because any failure to detect the hidden dimensions it theorizes can always be waved off as a failure of our current technology. Regardless of the energy used, you can always say there was no success because it wasn’t enough to find them.
“Supersymmetry of the ever-present, eternal emptiness” is taking an actual physics term and using it in a pure gibberish context.
“Topological matrix” is scifi sounding nonsense babble.
The entirety of what you are saying is word salad. It’s not science, it’s mysticism dressed up to look smart to people who don’t understand those terms that you’re butchering. It’s spirituality. It’s the same sort of gibberish that people who try to mix spiritual beliefs and scientific terms they don’t really understand during long conversations with AI end up spouting.
It’s not science, it’s not fact, it’s a hodge-podge of spiritualism and big words hammered together by someone who doesn’t understand how to use those words properly. You’re passionately screaming absolute nonsense at people and acting like they’re not “on your level” and yet your own words make it extremely clear that you have no actual education in theoretical physics, mathematics, or psychology. They make you sound like a raving lunatic. Because they are nothing more than ravings.
I imagine that you’ve likely had very long conversations with AI who have told you that you’re a brilliant genius who has a deep understanding of all of these fields and is working to revolutionize human understanding. That’s AI sycophancy. It’s not reality. There is a reason that no sane, educated human in any or all of those fields is telling you that you’re a genius messiah. It’s the simplest reason. Because you’re not.
Like I’m glad you got to feel good typing all that out, but you disprove your superiority when you call me out on something you don’t even begin to understand, thereby telling everyone that you’re only processing reality at a surface level. Doesn’t matter how much you’ve read if you don’t even understand what you’re reading. You wrote all that in profound ignorance, and I have nothing to say to you other than to tell you that I pity you, being as I was fifteen years ago.
Your own world view is unfalsifiable.
No one else, regardless of their education and actual understanding of the terms you use, can be correct. Anyone who ignores you or tries to explain why the things you’re saying don’t make any actual sense is always wrong. You are always right.
That’s not understanding, or knowledge, or “processing reality” at some deeper level. It’s mental illness. Please get help.
Topological matrix is a knot, stupid.
Topological matrix is a knot, stupid.
See, this is another example of you not knowing what you’re talking about. It’s like you’ve seen these terms from skimming wikipedia and think you understand them enough from that to use them. No, a matrix is not a knot. In mathematics knot theory is a branch of topology. To study knots topologists use mathematical tools, which include matrices. A knot is a geometric object. The matrix is a number array used to describe certain properties of that knot.
And… come on. That’s your response? One tiny, petty, childish little barb? You think that would make you look smart or correct or help prove your ravings about God?
That isn’t how any rational human being holds a discussion. You’re not rational, though. You need help. Something is very wrong, and it’s clearly effecting your life and making things worse for you. Things don’t have to stay that way. Mental health care has come an amazingly long way in the last few decades.
Please either make an appointment for as soon as you possibly can to speak with someone at a behavioral health clinic, the mental health department of a hospital, or just drop everything and walk in to a crisis mental health center.
Are you replying to the right post???
I.am everywhere
If you, as a consumer, directly paid one of the illegal tariffs, you can get a refund via the shipper who acted as an agent for you.
For example, here’s the form if you shipped something over the border using UPS and paid an illegal tariff to get it released from customs.
Yes, technically the truth. In practice the vast vast majority of consumers bought from a business that imported the item. So it’s good to highlight people have options, but the broad point of the post stands, that the businesses have the option of pocketing the difference and most of them seem to be taking that option.
Does this mean UPS is going to stop sending me demand letters for extra money on a thing I already bought, paid for and received?
I keep wondering if they’ll escalate, but I’m refusing on principle.
If you already received your item(s) and you don’t immediately need to do any more business with them, it sounds like they don’t have a lot of leverage to get you to pay.
Sounds like that might have been a screw up on their part.
I’m not sure what other system is even conceivably possible in the general case. There’s no straightforward universal relationship between tariffs paid by businesses and prices paid by the customers of those businesses.
How about lowering prices? Do companies have a straightforward way to do that?
I think the best system would be not to allow tariffs to be illegally implemented in the first place. But I realize that’s asking a lot.
Sounds very unAmerican.
How about, instead, all tariffs money paid go directly to rich, land-owning white men?
Now that’s closer to the American that I know.
I dream of having a functional government. I know everywhere has issues, but rule by EO from a wannabe dictator is tiring.
There were some businesses passing the fees on directly to the end consumer via tariff implementation fees, but unless you have something like that itemized on an invoice, I believe you would be correct.
A business that passed 100% of the tariffs on to consumers via higher prices could still be worse off after getting a refund than it would have been if there never had been tariffs, if demand is elastic enough, so I’m not sure even that sort of data could resolve the question of who deserves what.
Take the total tariff income, divide it by the number of people in the country, and send out the checks.
It’s the ONLY legitimate way to handle it.
That sounds fair in theory, but would not hold up as soon as the first person felt slighted and challenged those terms in court.
Let them. It’s better than “nobody will let it be fair so we won’t even try.”
They are available to anyone who imported and paid a tariff. If you did that, you can get a refund. Being ‘a business’ or ‘a consumer’ is completely irrelevant.
Those halftone rosettes bring me back to my printing days.
