I mean those people who you look at them and they have the body and responsibilities of a 43 year old but then you hear them talk about other people or other ethnicities or other situations that people are experiencing elsewhere and the person had might as well be a remorseless 3 year old that was raised wrongly… The thing that floors me is hen you meet a very old person, Im talking in their 60s or older, and they start spewing some of the most idiotic, narcisisstic garbage a person could ever talk of… ‘How have you spent all these years learning nothing?!’
Is it really THAT hard to break free of the chains of your terrible childhood and develop just a little empathy , understanding and humanity towards others? I DEFINITELY didnt have the best childhood seeing as how I was bullied and ostracized for decades , even by my parents lol, but I came to realize that ‘Hurt people will hurt people.’ so why am I going to go out of my way to be selfish and make more people who are hurt? But on the other hand I see , and Im sure most of you also have seen, that humans are not a very logicsl species sometimes. We have the potential to be more logical than Einstein but it doesnt always play out like that… We as a species do A LOOOT of things based on anti-logic, emotions, our pains, our traumas, or our cognitive distortions and this in turn sometimes creates more ‘hurt people’ …
Im not saying that humans have gotten worse over time cause anybody here can open up wikipedia and read about all the awful things we used to do to each other , if anything we have gotten better just a little bit. But why are there STILL in the year of 2026 people who choose to just not ‘grow up’ ?
TL;DR too many adults , and even seniors , Ive emcountered have illogical and sometimes psychopathic opinions . Why do so many people choose to not grow up and be more understanding?
What is your take on something like this?
Edit: from what Im seeing there are couple takes I ld agree with 5o explain this phenomena
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there could be neurological disorders like CTE , schizoaffective disorders, etc… that causes an older individual to do and say unusual things …and hurtful things. Cures for these are barely existent so if someone suffers from them? Theyre just out of luck and hvlave to hope they dont do anything too hurtful
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The overal lack of mmental health care , mental health breaks, mental health interventions , and psychiatric medication access globally. Some people are lucky and are born in a region that has such things easily. …others sadly arent…
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Some people get stuck in a cycle of self destructive cognitive distortions that impairs their ability to grow. there is the possibility that it is a reactive defensive mechanism that one has in response to our very flawed societies that humans have evolved from thousands of years that although it was probably w useful reaction thousands of years ago the current world is very much differenr than it was thousands or years ago . So these cognitive distortions become detrimental more than they are beneficial. Very few people are born innately malicious and/or with an antisocial personality disorder , but a person can clearly become both of these things with enough prompting. And not all humans are the same we all have different genetics ans different stories , all because one oerson reacts in a healthy and self-loving manner to malicious stimulation that doesnt mean all other peoole will do the same. This also has the chance to lead to echo chambering or self imoosed isolation and both if these makes recovery and interventions from external sources more difficult. So basicallt both nurture and nature can play a role in the self-destructive practices abd thought process a person conducts in response to the sad and lonely society of today.
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Humans havent really evolved to or adapted well to modern society. Like empathy of other groups or for other groups of people on the other side of the planet may be difficult for some people to understand and learn. Humans have created and stuck tio ‘outgroups’ and ‘ingroups’ for millenia and very rarely have humans acknowledge the truth that ‘We are ALL part of. the ingroup since we are ALL humans’ . I dont think this completely excuses a person to treat other groups of people in awful ways though.
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Soceties that have encouraged ignorance all in the name of listening only to a few politicians and very rich people will clearly create more and more ignorant peoples. And this clearly occurs tor the detriment of those people who cjoose to be ignorant. Being very rich or a politician doesnt mean that you kniw everything that each human needs
Curious why you expect it to have gotten better by the “year of 2026” when our genetics hasn’t meaningfully changed for a million years. Our bodies are predisposed to form tribes, hoard resources, and perpetrate atrocities that only exist at a scale enabled by civilization.
It won’t be solved until we wait a million years or use a CRISPR-like technology to fix our flaws.
The short version is that life is too easy.
Long version is that humans evolved in an environment where death could come from every corner you walked around. The people who made the world something that should revolve around their ideas of threats and fear were the ones that survived. Since the invention of civilization, those threats have become much more abstract but the human brain hasn’t changed that much. We keep looking for threats, but they aren’t there. Instead of accepting that they don’t exist, people decided that they must be hidden around every corner they can’t see around.
I’ve read your post and some of your comments below the post.
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I dunno. Probably lots of lead poisoning, micro plastics crossing the blood-brain-barrier, other harmful stuff in our city-atmospheres and of course social media (for “old” folks facebook, for young people Instagram and tiktok). All of has fried our collective brains and tendencies for what you described increase because of it. But maybe that’s just an excuse to ascribe what’s wrong with people to something external.
I agree with your edited version. As for causes, being a good parent seems to be one of the hardest things to do. To be honest it’s the main reason why I never wanted to have kids.
ya I never wanted kids cause I am sure thst a lot of people out there who would harm my aethereal children (we read about innocent children getting blown up , kidnapped, trafficked, abused, all other horrible things all the time in the news). But also … I dont wsnt to hurt my child’s feelings …I know Im not a perfect person (nobody is perfect to be honest) and I get in my feelings a lot . I get psralyzed with the past pains Ive experienced and I also have serious anger issies at times. And I dont wsnt my kid to suffer all because Im STILL dealing with the trauma I experienced as a child… thats why I got my vasectomy.
Being a good parent in today’s world is very difficult I can agree.
I got into watching bodycam footage on YT recently and like half of these are 20 to 40 year olds crying for their mom, demanding the officers call their parents, etc. and unable to take responsibility for their actions, it’s absolutely wild how immature some people are.
forget only the bodycams have you seen the true crime stories that come out on some of these old idiots after they get arrested and charged?
Theres that one guy who drove his car through all those people during that parade before he got arrested . Apparently he had impregnated a 12 year old before that… Ah! darrell brooks was his name. He really thinks that his scizophrenia diagnosis will allow him to act like an incorrectly raised 12 year old forever and be forgiven EVERY time… 😐
I remember seeing another bodycam of a man who was in his 40s who when he was getting arrested for taking inappropriate pictures of young girls at a Krampus event he said ‘My mom’s a lawyer! Im calling my mom’ to the officers… 😐
…Like…dude…hello?! GROW UP!
what do you get when you spend decades eroding a social system that prunes itself and replace it with a social structure that allows inclusive shameless adults that receive little to no punishment?
EXACTLY!
Fuck capitalism and crapitalists!
Religions tend to reinforce being a child, Christianity at least. It makes people more malleable to the social engineering.
Ow the edge
Religious people act like they do because they believe an invisible sky person has some big cosmic plan, and they are helping to fulfill that plan by being the generally shitty way they do.
Calling that out for what it is is hardly being edgy.
Religious people act like they do because they believe an invisible sky person has some big cosmic plan, and they are helping to fulfill that plan by being the generally shitty way they do.
No biases , overgeneralistions or anything similar to that here. Nope, just straight “Facts don’t care about your feelingsTM”
People tend to keep their views and the world was a lot different when they were young. It’s hard for them to see that conditions have changed or that the victims of the change are not the issue because it worked fine for them in ideal conditions to start a family etc.
They’ve been programmed by American propaganda about rugged individualism to not seek help with internal strife and to be judgemental of those who lean on others, as well as a specifically targeted belief about therapy being unnecessary and wasted money through even most Hollywood depictions.
It’s not a dead end starting point for someone to change for the better, but it’s a big hill to get over for someone who accepts no advice, especially from those younger than them.
That all being said, my grandma is in her 80s and is far more progressive than almost every boomer I’ve ever met and even most gen x.
A lot of this comes down to how wildly different the world was when different generations were raised.
People in their 60s and older were raised by parents who lived through extreme hardship and scarcity, where absolute self-reliance and emotional toughness were required just to survive. Empathy wasn’t prioritized the same way because survival was the primary goal.
Meanwhile, younger generations were raised in a totally different era - shaped by rapid technological shifts, different parenting styles, and a heavier focus on emotional awareness and participation.
When two groups are forged in completely different environments with different core survival values, they are naturally going to view the world through vastly different lenses. Neither side easily understands the other because their starting points were miles apart.
Thank you for this.
And this further proves to me how we should create a world where struggling to survive is practically impossible for all people of peaceful will. The less tha tpeople are stuck worrying about just survival the more we can worry about things that actually will improve our collective mental healths like self-actualization and climate change, and the end to all these needless wars and genocides.
There are a lot of people in the world, somr will be like that. Besides we are not logical beings, sure logic has helped us a lot but there is no logical thing to do if you are not following or chasing something usually defined by emotions. A goal, a feeling, moral compasses and a lot of other stuff.
Also sometimes people don’t know they are even hurt or at least deny it which makes the healing process a lot harder if well, they don’t want to heal.
I believe everyone learns something, every piece of information you process and stuff you deduce in your enviroment, people telling you stuff. Some stuff will be useless long term of course, other will be easier to forget. And if you just spend your life changing pleasure or something, without exploring different perspectives aside from your own, staying in the same circle and using bad coping mechanisms I see it unlikely you will learn much, specially if the circle discourages this stuff and critical thinking and you just distract yourself through life.
If the people around you don’t grow and that’s all you know, and have a possitive perspective around those people it’s harder that you grow too.
Also those people are unlikely to be psycopaths. Psycopaths are usually calculative and would not let you know they don’t feel empathy. Of course some psycopaths can be good people even without feeling empathy, some could not be so smart and yea yea. Sociopaths are usually more impulsive too from my understanding. I doubt those people are any of those, probably just more like “those people are different” and that’s hoe they feel no empathy for them. When you see people as others, outsiders, enemies, different or maybe not even human it can be less likely for you to feel empathy for them.
or idk i don’t know how humans work.
not hating on anything you wrote I think its mostly correct.
But I thought the DSM classified sociopaths and psychoapths as the same thing no? They said that theure just gonna generalize the two terms as both meaning Antisocial Personality Disorder if mymemory is correct
Yea probs, the terms are deprecated from what I know but I am very sure sociapath was by nurture and psycopath by nature and that.
Very old…
In their 60s
lol
isnt that when a person becomes a senior citizen?
To me 40 is old cause thats when your athleticism and your recovery time start to slow down.
Ha! How long are you planning to be old? That is insane. If you are old at 40 you could be old for over half your life!
I am near 60. I bike to work, work over 40 hours a week, do yoga 4 days a week, lift twice a week. Definitely slower, can’t run but not really old yet, as far as I can tell. I think very old is over 75 usually - that’s when people start to feel like they have lived long, and start really seeing people they know die of old age.
And if I am going to live to 90, as the statistics seem to think, I can’t really be OLD until I am like 80.
Please let me be there when you tell your mom and dad that very old is 60 years old, and that senior citizen is when you are 40
I do give leeway to seniors because
- some are miserable, which can lead to spite and close mindedness
- the world might have been didfeeent most of their lives
but you dont know what a senior has been through in their life. Alsoo old age makes it more likely that somekne has a neurological disorder like Alzheimer’s or schizophrnia and such illnesses practically guarantee that someone will act in unusual ways and say unusual things. Sometimes hurtful things.
The least you can do is give leeway to seniors who have become older and wiser with age and have learned the Golden Lesson of ‘Always treat others as they or you want to be treated’
