His behaviour sure doesn’t help.
I think W Bush painted the world black and white when there is nuance. You’re either with us against us. Started two very unpopular wars and dragged Nato members in. Caused mass immigration to Europe from leading to the raise of people like Bannon, Trump and Farage. The entire far right really. For me, Bush was the catalyst that led us to where we are right now and is the worse president. But even I think I am wrong cause my memory doesn’t go back much further.
And worse of all. Bush didn’t even win. Roger Stone literally stormed the recount, Bushes brother shut the count down and the supreme court went cool, cool, cool. Been hating ever since the shocking lack of democracy in America. And the fact that some anti abortion Gun nut in some swing state determines how many of my friends will die in wars, how much petrol will cost and how much food will cost due to sheer greed of the owner class in America.
So for me. Bush 2. Trump just let the world see the corruption in day light where the others kept it in the dark.
I say people like Rupert Murdoch and Roger Ailes seeded the culture that led to the modern right wing.
There’s no fucking way Bush is worse than Trump. It’s not even close.
You can go almost anywhere on Earth and say “I can’t wait to read that obituary” in the local language, and people will know who you’re talking about. We haven’t had that since Hitler
Some presidents have arguably done worse things than Trump (so far), but I’m not sure if they were more hated at the time. Trump has probably done more damage to the institutions of the US than any other president in history; which will probably result in a new dark era.
I think when future history books are written about the downfall of America they’ll be entire chapters dedicated to his contribution to the collapse.
In a contemporary sense or in a historical sense?
Obviously the latter is virtually impossible to determine but I suspect he’ll be somewhere in the top 5.
Just as obviously he’s #1 in a contemporary sense. There is a lot of hate for Obama from people who swear they aren’t racist, but moderates and Democrats like/love him. I feel like Biden is universally slightly disliked. I think Bush Jr. is similar. Clinton’s probably between slightly disliked and slightly liked.
Trump, on the other hand, is between vilified and slightly disliked recently (thanks to the Iran War and the Epstein Files). Sure, lots of people pretend to like or love him in public, but I think that’s usually performative to align with political allies as you’re virtually obligated to do under authoritarian rule. Just look at how few MAGAs turned out for America’s 250th. They just aren’t enthusiastic about him any more.
I kinda wonder if he’ll end up like Nixon. The people who still like him will “forget” about him.
They’ll pretend they never supported him
he’s a convenient scapegoat for those who need him
As if when he dies anything , at all, will change.
He’s probably up there but I’d be very wary of recency bias.
Yes, worst president in the history of the United States. Policy decisions that are actively sabotaging the future of the next generation.
Generations
beyond a shadow of a doubt
By the general public and the world? Absolutely.
But you could make the argument that Presidents Lincoln, Garfield, and Kennedy were each more specifically hated by one particular person at a time.
Running for a 3rd term would certainly seal it.
Yes.
Donald’s favorability polling is even lower than Jimmy Carter, which definitely sets him among the most hated presidents of all time.
People in 2024 voted for two things: Immigration reform and affordability. Donald has done neither. He allowed ICE to act as Gestapo, running around masked in unmarked cars chasing down and violently assaulting fifth graders and murdering Americans in the streets, which pissed off a significant number of his own voters who did not vote for that. It doesn’t help that he started a war with Iran after explicitly promising no more forever wars, and that war has made the cost of living significantly worse for all Americans.
Republicans in general are polling around 15% lower in approval than Democrats. That’s rig-proof territory if it holds until November. Republican voters won’t switch parties, but they’ll stay home or opt not to miss a badly-needed day’s pay in order to vote for a president who made them poorer, as we saw Democrats do with Biden/Harris in 2024.
indeed
Would be? He is.
Trump is among the worst humans in history.
like mad Roman emperor level.
Raped children, casually murdered 150 school girls, Hitler style Gestapo and concentration camps, unmatched level of corruption…
like worst human in history, the question is maybe if he’s worse than Hitler, not Bush
Lmfao, honestly, this thread is making me realize that Trump has a point when he talks about Trump derangement syndrome.
Multiple comments now have compared him to Hitler, which makes you either ignorant of present day reality or grossly ignorant of history.
Like honestly, “casually murdered 150 schoolgirls”. Do you know how many fucking innocent children Bush got killed in Afghanistan and Iraq?? It’s more than 150.
Sure buddy. The thing is that Trumps’ death toll is just getting started and it’s going to be a big one.
Read the fucking room.
Yes, but bush did not go to Esptein, or steal billions. He was bad, but it is a different leage of bad. He is responsible for over a million US exes during COVID. over 1.2% of Americans did not survive his first administration and died directly due to his ego.
or steal billions.
Yes, billions of dollars was funneled from the US government, to defense contractors like Haliburton, explicitly to prop up the corporations of Bush and his friends like Cheney.
He is responsible for over a million US exes during COVID. over 1.2% of Americans did not survive his first administration and died directly due to his ego.
I mean fair point, but his COVID policy was also a direct reflection of the will of a huge amount of the American public. Fox News has more deaths in their hands because of COVID then Trump does if you want to be honest about the origin of the anti-vax attitude. It certainly didn’t start with Trump, though he was in a position to influence change and he didn’t.
