His behaviour sure doesn’t help.
If we survive Trump. We will be weaker in so many ways. The institutions that underpin our democracy have been severely damaged. I also expect a severe economic downturn over the next few years.
I worry that the next Republican President will be younger more calculating and energetic. They will look at the Trump era as a blueprint for taking permanent political control of an already damaged system.
Trump will be the most hated; and this makes him an ideal President for his financial enablers.
Trump made Bezos, Gates, Musk, et al ridiculously happy. He’s easy to manipulate, greedy, serves their interests… and best of all, he acts as magnificent misdirection and takes a lot of blame for things he’s really too dumb to have anything to do with.
Around the world, people will sigh with relief when he’s dead… but those who financed and empowered him will be untouched and unacknowledged for the most part.
For just one example, Deutsch Bank.
That entire worldwide system of billionaires and financiers will remain, and continue to bring ruin
I think W Bush painted the world black and white when there is nuance. You’re either with us against us. Started two very unpopular wars and dragged Nato members in. Caused mass immigration to Europe from leading to the raise of people like Bannon, Trump and Farage. The entire far right really. For me, Bush was the catalyst that led us to where we are right now and is the worse president. But even I think I am wrong cause my memory doesn’t go back much further.
And worse of all. Bush didn’t even win. Roger Stone literally stormed the recount, Bushes brother shut the count down and the supreme court went cool, cool, cool. Been hating ever since the shocking lack of democracy in America. And the fact that some anti abortion Gun nut in some swing state determines how many of my friends will die in wars, how much petrol will cost and how much food will cost due to sheer greed of the owner class in America.
So for me. Bush 2. Trump just let the world see the corruption in day light where the others kept it in the dark.
There’s no fucking way Bush is worse than Trump. It’s not even close.
No child left behind leading to a nation without critical thinking. Guantanamo bay. Imprison who the fuck you want without consequence. Making it law to invade the ICC if any American soldier is ever held to accountability. Crashing the entire global economy by relaxing laws on banks and investors. I mean Bush was pretty awful. Trump is just dumb as bricks walking in the same path set by Bush.
I say people like Rupert Murdoch and Roger Ailes seeded the culture that led to the modern right wing.
He’ll still have fans after he is gone, just like there are old men who still pine for Stalin and Hitler.
You can go almost anywhere on Earth and say “I can’t wait to read that obituary” in the local language, and people will know who you’re talking about. We haven’t had that since Hitler
Some presidents have arguably done worse things than Trump (so far), but I’m not sure if they were more hated at the time. Trump has probably done more damage to the institutions of the US than any other president in history; which will probably result in a new dark era.
In a contemporary sense or in a historical sense?
Obviously the latter is virtually impossible to determine but I suspect he’ll be somewhere in the top 5.
Just as obviously he’s #1 in a contemporary sense. There is a lot of hate for Obama from people who swear they aren’t racist, but moderates and Democrats like/love him. I feel like Biden is universally slightly disliked. I think Bush Jr. is similar. Clinton’s probably between slightly disliked and slightly liked.
Trump, on the other hand, is between vilified and slightly disliked recently (thanks to the Iran War and the Epstein Files). Sure, lots of people pretend to like or love him in public, but I think that’s usually performative to align with political allies as you’re virtually obligated to do under authoritarian rule. Just look at how few MAGAs turned out for America’s 250th. They just aren’t enthusiastic about him any more.
I think it goes from disgust and hatred to embarassment, forced acceptance and ego defense (don’t admit you were wrong).
I suspect that’s true for quite a few of them.
I kinda wonder if he’ll end up like Nixon. The people who still like him will “forget” about him.
They’ll pretend they never supported him
At least Nixon did some good things (EPA, opened up to China).
Yes, worst president in the history of the United States. Policy decisions that are actively sabotaging the future of the next generation.
Generations
he’s a convenient scapegoat for those who need him
As if when he dies anything , at all, will change.
He’s probably up there but I’d be very wary of recency bias.
I think when future history books are written about the downfall of America they’ll be entire chapters dedicated to his contribution to the collapse.
beyond a shadow of a doubt
Running for a 3rd term would certainly seal it.
By the general public and the world? Absolutely.
But you could make the argument that Presidents Lincoln, Garfield, and Kennedy were each more specifically hated by one particular person at a time.
Yes.
Donald’s favorability polling is even lower than Jimmy Carter, which definitely sets him among the most hated presidents of all time.
People in 2024 voted for two things: Immigration reform and affordability. Donald has done neither. He allowed ICE to act as Gestapo, running around masked in unmarked cars chasing down and violently assaulting fifth graders and murdering Americans in the streets, which pissed off a significant number of his own voters who did not vote for that. It doesn’t help that he started a war with Iran after explicitly promising no more forever wars, and that war has made the cost of living significantly worse for all Americans.
Republicans in general are polling around 15% lower in approval than Democrats. That’s rig-proof territory if it holds until November. Republican voters won’t switch parties, but they’ll stay home or opt not to miss a badly-needed day’s pay in order to vote for a president who made them poorer, as we saw Democrats do with Biden/Harris in 2024.
