I’m never putting one of these in my home.

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    Yeah, that’s kinda the point. They literally tell you that your voice interactions are used to improve the service.

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    I will be the last person to not have a smart home. There will be a banner over the doorway: “Welcome to Stupid House”.

    There will be a small cover charge.

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      You can have a privacy-first smart home. I have. I run Home Assistant in a docker container. No external services/plugins. My smart doorbell streams to my local nvr. If my internet is down, everything keeps working. And it’s not even that hard anymore. It’s become a lot easier over the last 2-3 years. Still not for non-techie users, but a lot better.

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        Have any resources to get started with that? Been looking into security systems but don’t fully trust nest/ring/simplisafe etc

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        I’m not tech illiterate by any means, and everything after “home assistant” in that post is Greek to me

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          Docker is a way to run containers. Basically lightweight virtual servers. That makes it easy to run multiple servers on one machine. An NVR is a network video recorder. It’s like a video security system like they use in stores where all cameras are viewed and recorded in a single place. I assume you know what a doorbell is 😄

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        Teach me your ways please! Setting up a Home Assistant seems like such a daunting task. I’m stalling converting my devices into it. Any tips for a (home assistant) beginner?

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          I just followed the steps on their site. Containers give me cancer, so I did a real install on my home server.

          Caveat: I am a professional software engineer (but I didn’t really have to hack anything)

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      I’m with you. I hate how they expect me to control everything from my phone or with voice commands. I’m fine walking to a light switch or walking to the thermostat.

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        There’s a middle ground as well. I refuse to put Alexa or OK Google or whatever on any of my stuff, but I run home-assistant with zigbee smart devices. My entire setup runs completely cut off from the internet. I could in theory even air gap it, although that’s a little overkill. It’s a “smart” house, but one I’m 100% in control of.

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                Be careful running it in a Pi because it’s a little heavy for that depending on how you configure it. A Pi model 4 is probably OK, but you wouldn’t want to run it on a model 3 or something even older, and you’re going to want to use one with at least 4GB of RAM.

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            Yep, I run mine on an ODroid XU4, but you can run it on just about anything including a docker container on a generic Linux install.

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          I’m using z-wave stuff but similar setup. Home Assistant does reach out to the cloud for some things like weather forecast and Google calendar but otherwise it will operate 100% without internet if needed. I also have cameras that while they aren’t air-gappend they are blocked from Internet access and can only talk to the NVR.

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        The last thing I want is to talk to a computer. Buttons are fine. The roboto phone customer service is bad enough.

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      When skynet comes online, I’ll die quickly, being mopped to death. You’ll have to struggle in the post apocalyptic hellscape where humans fight robots with A-10s for some reason.

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    Yeah, I realized these things are terrible about a year ago. So, I hacked them into computer speakers using some cheap amps and a 12 volt power supply.