Donald Trump has issued his latest threat to Iran and said that if officials fail to make a deal with the United States “the whole country is going to get blown up.”

The president also made threats Sunday morning to target civil infrastructure after it was reported that Iranian forces were refusing to allow ships to pass through the Strait of Hormuz this weekend.

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    USA by criminals for criminals. Absolutely disgusting country, just as bad as Putin’s Russia.
    To the American population: The fact that you elected this corrupt criminal pedophile malignant narcissist of a moron twice will never be forgotten - never!

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        Edit: I read the above as sarcasm, I don’t think Germany is still shunned, but it is for sure still remembered what they did in WW2.

        Original post:
        Has it been forgotten, if you mention Hitler, does anyone still remember? No it will not be forgotten, just as the USA helping Europe hasn’t been forgotten. But the reason Germany was slowly forgiven was first that they were split in 2 making the power of Germany smaller, it was a different time, with no prior historical lesson to learn from regarding Nazism. and that the political environment in both parts of Germany was changed completely, with Western Germany taking responsibility more than any country had done before them.

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    The question is, will the Secret Service do its duty if he decides to nuke Iran? Because he sounds crazier than ever to me, if any President would, it’s him.

    Hopefully, an agent will follow their oath to protect the United States from all enemies, foreign and domestic.

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    So that relatively small group of soldiers sitting in boats far from shore without adequate food or supplies are going to crush the much larger and entrenched entire Iranian military now huh. Sounds real scary.

    One silver lining to all this is that evidently Trump has learned that its harder to attack a mid sized country halfway around the world --without allies-- in challenging terrain – than it is to attack some unarmed civilians trying to get to work in portland or minneapolis.

    Progress of a sort.

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      The soldiers won’t do a thing, US Navy-Air Force will toss bombers and missiles; they’ll do small special ops too, of course.

      I don’t think they’ll ever use the Army-Marines, too much risk.

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        Sounds about right. No armor called up either. They could have activated one for show at least.

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      Turns out that the Secret Service really is one of the few truly competent branches of government still around these days. I guess it’s just always, regardless of party or doctrine, in the best interest of the president to have the service operate with extreme competence. Trump will happily fill government branches full of incompetent goons instructed to gum up the works. He’ll happily dismantle multiple Congress-mandated departments and programs. He’ll grift off every bit of government graft he can. But I bet the Secret Service is the one he actually lets be run competently. If there’s anything the man cares about, it’s himself.

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          Getting a gun is the easiest part.

          Then you need to find an opportunity and make a plan for it. Then execute the plan and adapt to unforeseen circumstances. Training with the firearm and other preparations make sense as well. If you want to shoot Trump from close range you might need to social engineer your way into an opportunity. You will also need money for a bunch of expenses besides a gun.

          There have been two attempts to shoot Trump that I remember, maybe more. The secret service is a formidable security provider for him.

          You will also have to risk being shot by secret service or be ready to serve a long prison sentence or even the death penalty. Not such an easy decision.

          Teamwork has its own challenges. Building a team and making group decisions is already difficult, if you’re planning a fishing trip. A high profile assassination is a different league. Finally any team member might get cold feet, change their mind, and snitch to the authorities. Then you go to prison without having achieved anything of substance.

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            All very good points.

            My “teamwork” comment would work if there was a “no kings” rally but with guns and it was a march on Washington. Obviously that would be borderline impossible to organize but at this point I think a loud enough public call to action (maybe by a celeb) could actually make it happen.

            As far as doing it like James Bond, I don’t think there would be an escape there. It would be a suicide mission, accepting that you’ll die is part of it.

            Your comment never touched on fertilizer bombs like Timothy Mcvay (would be tough to get close but not impossible). Especially with an MMA event happening on the front lawn of the white house soon.

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        It is, but at the same time it happens very often. Was it half or 1/3 of all US presdents died by being shot? And most of those were not actively trying to destroy their own country and any international relations it had.

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      Absolutely crazy how many terminally online people casually call for someone to just throw their life away.

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        Saying you’re surprised something hasn’t happened is a long shot from encouraging that it’s done.

        With the amount of unstable and desperate people out there I’m surprised nobody’s kidnapped Elon musks kids for ransom. I don’t wish his kids any harm, and don’t hope it happens, but I’m still a bit surprised that it hasn’t happened when you consider the amount of people out there with nothing to lose, questionable morals, and a big desire to make a lot of money.

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      I think Sundays is the day when many of his closest advisers take some or all of the day off, so he’s just wandering without the distractions that normally keep him busy.

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    So Americans, are you really going to let this clearly unhinged man drive the world into nuclear Armageddon? You will cling on to the jobs you say you hate until the last second of doom lest you find balls and do anything?

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      As much as I hate to admit it, because I am one, modern Americans are wimps.

      I mean…we’re letting a criminal pedophile drive our futures into the dirt. As in, we will see a decline in the quality of our lives, for the remainder of our lives.

      It’s not really a matter of opinion. We’re weaklings.

      Whether “America The Brave” was true at some point or just propaganda, the bottom line is we’re completely and totally pathetic right now. An absolutely shameful time to be an American citizen.

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          I don’t think the U.S is so far gone that we can’t turn this whole saga into a history lesson in 2028.

          I would have thought the same but you guys (speaking generally of course) reelected the Child Rapist and not 2 weeks ago, still voted a republican back to Congress to replace MTG…

          So yes, there is a theoretical chance to get rid of this problem via voting… but something tells me Americans are unable to learn lessons anymore

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          Oh please. Whoever gets the Dem nomination is going to continue all the evil warmongering and disastrous economic corruption Trump is guilty of, they’ll just be less obnoxious about it.

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        Seriously, why do the citizens get blamed?

        …because you voted for a fraudster, child rapist for president TWICE! and many more times before that for Republicans that paved the way

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          So you blindly hate people from a country because of what it’s “leaders” are doing? What other countries do you arbitrarily hate their people? Just curious how deep this national prejudice/bigotry goes.

          I sure as fuck didn’t vote for him, bold claim to imply I did. And you avoided answering the fucking question I asked. What would you have us do, realistically? Answer the fucking question instead of using blind prejudice/bigotry as a defense.

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            So you blindly hate people from a country because of what it’s “leaders” are doing?

            Not blindly as said citizens are responsible for electing this particularly shitty regime TWICE… and not “hate”, just disapproval

            I sure as fuck didn’t vote for him, bold claim to imply I did.

            I never said you did… it’s called “generalization”, look it up

            What would you have us do, realistically?

            Protest… look what French people do when their gov does shitty stuff. At this point I would settle for anything that is not what you are doing, which is pretending to be hapless victims of your own shitty doing.

            Answer the fucking question instead of using blind prejudice/bigotry as a defense.

            I see you live up to the American standard and read at a 6th grade level.

            Your first questions was “why do the citizens get blamed?” and I told you it’s because you voted this gov in TWICE…

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    “Stand and deliver” - US is a fucking pirate nation. And the idiots from US Army and US Navy are just common criminals. All of them.