• atcorebcor@sh.itjust.works
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    The best thing you can do in these situations is to ask a critically reflective question for them to sit with. You can and never have been able to change someone’s mind just like that. What you can is be part of the web of critical thoughts that help them towards thinking critically about their idea.

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      Yea they’re looking for agreements to help lock in the idea. The algorithms don’t ever have anyone critically questioning them on their little podcasts.

      So Be the critical question asker that they forgot to be before buying the idea.

      Be Columbo. ‘Oh before I forget Just one last question…’

      Loved Peter falk in that show.

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    All day every day. My dad was a construction worker and would only have a use for books if he needed to start a fire. I won’t try to bend the three braincells that somehow survived a lifetime of alcoholism into shape.

    On his tombstone it shall say “he died as he lived, an idiot.”

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      “We didn’t have ‘neurodivergent’ people when i was young” he said, cradling his beer bottle.

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    Hits me every time. I may know I am right and the other person is wrong, but the amount of re-education needed for them to realize it - undoable for me

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    It’s rare to find people who are actually interested in learning anything, most will just parrot something they’ve heard in passing or rely on gut feeling, and if your fact goes against their made up assumption then they will deny what you say rather than look it up and learn, because being seen to not know something hurts their feelings.

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    When I was quite a bit younger I used to argue against young Earth creationists online. Eventually I came to mostly the same conclusion: there’s just so much wrong with everything they believe, there’s nowhere to even begin taking it all apart. No amount of reason will cut through their faith.

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        Part of me worries that he legitimized then by arguing with them, another part rejoices that he made them look like the dumbfucks they are and hopefully others maybe on the fence took notice.

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      I am (well, probably now ‘was’. Birthdays suck) a young ex-church goer. I am young enough to bounce back and re-learn how the world works.

      My mom is 56. She can’t bounce back and learn a whole new world.

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        Congrats!

        I was lucky enough to grow up with parents who let me figure things out on my own without trying to indoctrinate me. I had a very brief flirtation with religion in my teens (thanks to a girl) but grew out of it real fast.

        I’m glad you managed to get out.

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    Me when some dumb MF says I’m wrong, when they clearly lack the mental capacity to understand the issue at hand:

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    We don’t always have the time and some ideas are too complex.

    But this is what good teachers are good at. You need to relate to your student before you can teach them anything.

    “Anyone who tries to make a distinction between education and entertainment doesn’t know the first thing about either.” -Marshall Macluhan.

    People are not entertained by “you are wrong I am right.” Literally nobody is. There’s an art to teaching.