While the Motorola/GrapheneOS news is interesting, it’s a shame that GrapheneOS’s lack of root access continues to be a significant limitation. For users who prioritize data ownership and the ability to create full, local backups (Swift Backup being a prime example), it’s simply not a viable option. Security is important, but so is control over your own data.
I remember my original Moto G. It was a good phone for the time. I will follow Graphene wherever they go until a Linux phone is ready.
Hello Moto!
Any non Google phone running graphene would be epic.
I had completely forgotten Lenovo bought Motorola from Google some 10 years ago. Honestly haven’t seen a Motorola phone in at least that long …
This is crazy big news.
W Moto ❤️🩹
They spotted an opportunity
I’ll buy if decent specs and price good
I solely need camera, contactless payments and projection for cars. If it is capable of these I am pre ordering.
All my phones have been Motorola, the first one was the Moto X - OG !
Very well built and great batteries. Quality phones with close to stock UI for a snappy experience. Love the Moto Actions as well.
Only negatives were updates and cameras. Both are much better these days.
Especially now with an upcoming OS alternative!
I’ll second this, me and the wife keep breaking or losing phones and have gone for cheap motorolas as replacements. Doesn’t have much bloatware, and can be easily purged.
EDIT : If you hate the amount of bloatware, it does have, compare it to the samsung galaxy amounts of bloat.
Moto X4 was an amazing phone, I hope they bring back smaller phones, I don’t want to use a tablet.
I always thought Pixel was the platform to have for fucking around with the OS and stuff. Of fucking course I was an idiot.
“Embrace, Extend, Extinguish”. When have they ever done otherwise.
Point of order: That was Microsoft rather than Google.
Yeah, I’m aware that Microsoft coined that phrase, but Google seems to be doing something quite similar.
Google embraced the creation of an open-sourced Android project, extended its capabilities with centralized software distribution, and is now extinguishing by forcing developers to comply with its new requirements and banning third-party app stores.
Don’t be too hard on yourself, they definitely put money and effort into influencing opinions in all the subversive ways they can manage. But also, let this be a lesson to always check alternatives and their reason for existing. I consider it part of best practices.
The reason I got my ZFold5 was I like the fact that it could open up and give me a larger area to view and bigger keyboard. I have gotten the biggest phone I could get for the last 15 years or so because I have a hard time seeing the tiny screens. I would be happy to switch to a new OS but my old ass needs a bigger screen.
This is actually supported by GrapheneOS currently, if you need that extra push. 😉Gonna be my next phone for that reason. Oh, and it’s bendy. XD
How will they be able tackle the play integrity checks and all those things?
I tried to switch from iPhone to Pixel 10 Pro Fold with GrapheneOS, but I needed RCS to work. Unfortunately, even installing Google Messages and allowing it permissions wouldn’t allow RCS to work for more than 36 hours before I had to go through the whole install and allow process again. I would be willing to cut off all Google services, even banking apps and whatnot, but I need RCS to work. I’m unfortunately an American and cannot reliably expect my friends and family to use an app other than iMessage to text, so I need RCS.
Will Motorola provide some GrapheneOS compatible RCS client? If so, I am likely to switch.
I recently picked up a 2024 model moto g power 5g. The main reason is that I needed the cheapest smart phone I could find locally to test a new provider (phreeli) before committing. That, and to serve as a ready backup if one of ours dies. $115 at a big box store.
It’s… fine. Even after debloating I get about half the battery life of my galaxy s20 which is now 5 years old. I haven’t been able to figure out what’s eating it, or maybe it just has a smaller battery… I should check that.
Feature, like shake shake for torch?
Had that on my Moto G Plus 5G (which is a shit name btw), as well as twisty-wrist for camera.
I think they pretty much all have it, they’re great shortcuts.
Absolutely. Haven’t used mine for 2 years and I still miss it.
Seems like a good move. They need some market they can dominate, even if it’s a small market at the moment. But, the only way this works is if we buy their phones. I wish them luck, and maybe they’ll make my next phone. I want to get out of Apple and Google.












