The tactic the Dems have been using since I was able to vote has been “We’re not AS bad as them so vote for us” and it worked for a short time. This just shows they’re the same side of the same coin to me, just different in text.
You understand nuance and a binary choice, right? “They fielded a 34-time felon pedo traitor. We’re not a 34-time felon pedo traitor. Vote for us” should be more than enough.
For that matter, you understand evolutionary process, right? The idea that “better” becomes “best” after more-than-one cycle?
They will still deny it for that sweet Zionist shekel.
Someone repost to c/Politics and c/PoliticalMemes and watch the ensuing garbage tornado of denial
Gladly. They’ll just justify it until they remove anyone who thinks murder is bad.
- Hamid Bendaas, a spokesperson for the IMEU Policy Project, said that during the meeting “the DNC shared with us that their own data also found that policy was, in their words, a ‘net-negative’ in the 2024 election.” Two other senior aides at the pro-Palestinian organization also said the DNC had drawn that conclusion.
- Axios independently verified that Democratic officials conducting the autopsy believed the issue harmed the party’s standing with some voters.
The intrigue: The IMEU Policy Project is now accusing the DNC of withholding its report in part because of its findings on Israel.
- DNC spokesperson Kendall Witmer denied that.
- When DNC officials announced last year that they wouldn’t release the audit, they said it was because they didn’t want the report to distract from the work of winning elections.
Remember this the next time someone tries to lecture you on why your primary candidate is simply unelectable.
Is this a quote from the article? Because if so it’s AI slop
To be fair, Axios always had this writing style.
Yeah but thats a pretty AI specific framing.
Its hilarious that they say this is a “secret” finding. Any child over the age of 5 could have told them this 15 months ago.
deleted by creator
Why don’t you stop and think for a second why the democrats would decide it’s better to risk votes than to stop genocide? Clearly you had to leave practically all online leftist spaces because you’re not actually a leftist. So stop cosplaying by saying “we” are all stupid. We’re not stupid enough to think a party that refuses votes just so they can continue supporting genocide is willing to help at all.
deleted by creator
Note that I’m not American before you lecture me over who I should or shouldn’t have voted for.
You are not American yet you defend American politicians complicity with the genocide . Palestinians do not give a damn about our excuses all they know is that both parties always provide billions in aid for Israel and diplomatic protection
deleted by creator
Where am I defending them?
this quote is a defense for democrats
But if you have the choice between “more genocide” and “less genocide”
People who voted for both democrats and republicans voted for more genocide. Like I said palestinians do not give a damn about our American trashy country, their trashy political system and there trashy excuses. Are you that stupid that you think Palestinians will say to you thank you my brother/sister for voting for the one who sent 1% less weapons and money when the 99% of the rest of weapons are enough to destroy the rest of Gaza? It’s not even possible de determine who would give less since Obama a democrats signed the biggest military aid for Israel.
deleted by creator
When America is the one giving carte blanche to Israel to wipe them off the map, they have to.
70% of all structures in Gaza were damaged or destroyed 92% of all housing units destroyed or damaged 88% of school buildings were damaged or destroyed 80% of key water, sanitation, and hygiene (WASH) facilities Only 16 out of 36 hospitals were partially functioning, facing critical shortages of fuel, medicine, and clean water. 75% of agricultural land, including orchards and greenhouses, was damaged or destroyed
This would not happen without Biden and Harris giving them carte blanche. There was zero sign of the cease fire was going under democrats . They knew that Israel is the reason why it didn’t happen yet blamed it on Hamas
Both party is giving carte blanche to Israel so like I said Palestinians do not cares about your excuses .
The only for Trump to be worse than Biden and Harris is if all Gaza is destroyed and all Palestinians are ethnically cleansed from the land. Still Trump should rot in jail just like Biden for fueling the genocide
You can’t even afford to condemn Harris for supporting Trump terrible plan for Gaza
Yes. Trump was so much the better solution wasnt he. /s
Many of them still seem to be quite proud of their idiotic and childish foot-stamping, too.
And you’re still proud of supporting mass murder because the other side also does it. Demand better.
If you didnt vote you supported mass murder also. And the complete obliteration and sale of all palestinian land to the highest bidder. Be better
How do you know that person didn’t vote?
Harris was going to let israel completely destroy the strip. Israel was really close to do it.
This happen during Biden
70% of all structures in Gaza were damaged or destroyed 92% of all housing units destroyed or damaged 88% of school buildings were damaged or destroyed 80% of key water, sanitation, and hygiene (WASH) facilities Only 16 out of 36 hospitals were partially functioning, facing critical shortages of fuel, medicine, and clean water. 75% of agricultural land, including orchards and greenhouses, was damaged or destroyed
I did. I voted for Clinton, Biden, Harris in California. Your move.
The time to demand better is literally any other time than when you get to choose between fetid neoliberalism and full throated fascism. The fact that the DNC fucked us all by, among other things, not having a primary doesn’t change the fact that Harris would have been preferable, even though she sucks.
I’ve been told by someone in a similar moral position you can’t criticize Democrats during the election then afterwards because they’re building up to the next one. Make that make sense.
That is, pardon my language, fucking stupid. We do deserve better from the Democrats, my only stance here is if it keeps someone from voting in the general election they’re cutting off their nose to spite their face.
It is, but it’s not an isolated case. There’s supporters who pretty much hold the Dems on a pedestal and will shout you down to make you not want to vote for them.
Idk what you want from me. I don’t like those people, I’m just really tired of living in fascism and don’t like the idea of revolution. Not accusing you of doing this here but the flip side of this is that people in these discussions tend to treat me like I’m the king of the Democrats and am personally responsible for them running shitty candidates. Unfortunately I’m just some guy who thinks you have to play it as it lies. Like, in the context of a general election, where you actually do have two defined choices, what does “demanding better” actually mean? I can see I’m rambling now so I’m gonna stop. I gotta go to work anyway but this shit is just so frustrating to me.
Demand better instead of making excuses. I voted for her, I hated it but I did. Sorry I didn’t Vote Blue No Matter Who hard enough to make her weak campaign actually have a chance to win.
deleted by creator
I thought it was moron voters who couldn’t see that yes - things can get a lot fucking worse.
I’m glad that the alternate US president has been so great to Palestine. Gaza is saved. /s
70% of all structures in Gaza were damaged or destroyed 92% of all housing units destroyed or damaged 88% of school buildings were damaged or destroyed 80% of key water, sanitation, and hygiene (WASH) facilities Only 16 out of 36 hospitals were partially functioning, facing critical shortages of fuel, medicine, and clean water. 75% of agricultural land, including orchards and greenhouses, was damaged or destroyed
This was during Biden
Are you saying Trump is a better alternative to Biden?
I am saying that both Trump and Biden are complicit in the genocide and both should rot in jail or even better getting executed
If Harris had won, would Palestine be in a worse state than it is today?
The whole strip may already all be destroyed if Harris won. At best she would have been as bad as Trump. Trump want to make money from Gaza so he oppose temporarily the complete destruction. If his plan fail he will allow Israel to finish the plan of extermination just like Harris would too .That gives Palestinians the opportunity to buy time and play with Trump weaknesses.
Vice President Harris said during an interview with ABC News’ “The View” on Tuesday that “there is not a thing that comes to mind” when asked whether she would’ve done anything differently than President Biden.
Later in the interview, she said that one of the differences between her and a Biden administration would be having a Republican in the cabinet, a pledge that she has made before on the campaign trail.
Look at how Harris is licking republicans and trump boots
Later in the interview, she said that one of the differences between her and a Biden administration would be having** a Republican in the cabinet**, a pledge that she has made before on the campaign trail.
Through diplomacy and persistence, today is an important first step toward a more hopeful future,” Harris said in a statement posted to the social platform X. “I commend the leaders and partners whose efforts made this agreement possible, including** the President and his team**.
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5554428-trump-administration-israel-hamas-agreement/
https://www.axios.com/2024/10/08/harris-biden-view-abc-2024-differences
“Vote for us, we’re not AS bad as the other guys!”
Yup, this is the system that exists in the US whether you like it or not
and Palestinians do not give a damn about your shitty system that majority of Americans never cared to change in the last 160 goddamn years
Hey look it’s one of the people who threw the election to the fascists
Support open fascists or just corporate fascists who say things nicely? Hrm…
Don’t you understand?! It’s the color of jersey that matters. Blue jerseys means I get to wash my hands of the sins of the nation.
Yeah, I compromised my morals and beliefs for her. I feel disgusting for doing so. Never again, the Dems have to WIN my vote, it’s not guaranteed anymore.
Never again, the Dems have to WIN my vote,
Here’s another way to think about it. If the Democrats come over and win your vote (as a political advocate/ under-stander/ explainer), if the Democrats can convince you, there are 2-3 other voters who aren’t as politically literate who are also going to be convinced.
Well, they are defending a genocider…
Given these options
- I want Trump to win
- I want Trump to lose
- Either way is fine
Which of these is supporting fascists, and which did you choose?
1 and 3 support fascism.
2 also supports fascism in this context
Itt: people who don’t understand the difference between individual behavior and collective action.
Exactly. And it’s obvious from the post: The collective action against the Democrats helped Trump win the US election. I have to wonder if these voters are proud of what they’ve helped accomplish.
You are a promoter of fascism.
