I (23M) started therapy today, hooray!
Only problem is, my family is too goddamn spicy. Once I got into my brother’s (25M) increasingly homicidal fantasies and animal killings, she stopped me before I mentioned the threats he made to kill people and told me that she is a mandated reporter and has an obligation to report certain situations to the authorities.
I think adding police to the equation will make everything worse and immediately paint a target on my back because I am the only one who would ever disclose the violence that happens under this roof. It might result in me being homeless if I have to flee for my life. I live in Ohio and it’s the middle of winter, so not a great start.
I wanted to work with a therapist because I grew up in this place and it traumatized me so badly that I’m scared of leaving this dump (not to mention, I have disabilities now that make that difficult). How much will I have to tiptoe around here? Is merely being afraid that someone will use violence against me reportable? What about if they fantasize about murder and domestic terrorism? What about violent crimes that they committed in the past? Or specific threats in the present?
Is therapy just not the right fit for this kind of thing? Did I end up with a heavy duty “fuck you” problem and therapy is just for “I feel sad sometimes” problems? It feels like bullshit to have to self-censor so much just because things were harder for me. How is throwing cops at the problem supposed to help when there is no universal basic sustenance or housing for the victims to escape to?
What are your experiences with mandated reporting, and how do you avoid triggering it?
The pattern your brother shows is familiar. It’s the same as with serial killers, it’s how they start. I’ve read a lot about the psychology behind these people and I’ve seen a lot of documentaries. First it’s fantasies, then it starts with animals, until that won’t be enough to feed the need.
Doing nothing has a high risk of animals and people getting hurt.
It’s good you got into therapy, but especially your brother needs help. And monitoring.
And you need a safe environment.
Thanks man real helpful, the words made me not live in a abusive family and cured my illness. Good that you watched documentaries on serial killers, otherwise where could we find such an expert.
How about the person is in distress and needs some kind of support to avoid a potentially dangerous situation, you are basically telling her that’s her problem good luck. In those situations, you don’t say anything if you something useful, him or her isn’t looking weak emotional support (that makes you feel better), they actually want advice.
If what they said was so unhelpful, then what does that make your comment?
Clearly you didn’t read the post nor my reply properly. It’s not a her, it’s a him. And he is worried about the police getting involved. I’m just saying that doing nothing is the bad option. Maybe I should be more clear that the police is the better option here. And I adviced to get out of the abusive environment. I never said it’s his problem, he’s getting help from his therapist and basically what I said is that he should let her do her job. Also, I didn’t just watch documentaries, I also read a lot of scientific papers on this subject.
So I did gave advice, not weak emotional support. I don’t get where you got “weak emotional support” from. So what are you on about mate
Maybe you should get out of that situation too and go to therapy.
Yes you did, your advice was basically, your brother is a serial killer and you should let the therapists contact authority, and you deserve better. How is that not a thoughts and prayers message.
First of all reading and watch documentaries about serial killer makes you the reverse of an expert, you are now filled with strong bias on serial killer profile, in dramatized version.
Second you don’t know him or the situation he is facing, his asking for advice on how to stop his therapist to go to the authorities because that would according to HIM put HIM in a much worse situation.
“Was basically” and then make a poor summery.
Yeah what do scientists and experts know about it anyway, right? With their dramatized scientific papers and everything. I bet any socccermom on Facebook knows better, right? *big_sigh
I don’t need to know him or the situation he is facing, all I know is that he’s in a dangerous and toxic environment and he needs to get out ASAP. And I know his brother is a high risk for causing harm to him, animals and other people. So anything is better than to stay in this situation. A therapist is trained for these situations. The authorities too. Protecting such a harmful person is a danger to society. You don’t want to be in a situation where the guy killed someone (or you) while you could have done something, like expose his issues and protect yourself.
But if you know so much better, what are your qualifications?
You’re not a scientist or an expert, they went to study the issue, several years. Do you think you can replace their knowledge with dramatized books or documentaries?
Can a person be abusive, psychopath, narcissist one or the other or in combination without being a serial killer, probably right? and what is the ratio of people who are one of those or a combination that is not a serial killer?
Is it 1/10, 1/100, 1/1000… you don’t know, because you are not an expert. You can be a serial who has not demonstrated any of those traits, because you can be a high functioning psychopath and people don’t know you are one.
You know who is an expert on when the police should be called on a potential serial killer? Probably the mental health specialist the OP is going to for therapy! Get a grip man killing animals and fantasizing about killing the family you live with only leads one place.
Dude you still don’t understand the issue, it’s not illegal to fantasize about killing someone, you can’t put someone in prison for fantasizing, which means the guy will be out on the street and maybe want to murder the person that was responsible for him ending up in a police investigation. Do you think the police will give some one around the clock protection?
And no a psychiatrist is not an expert on when to call the police or when not to, they are mandated to do it if they SUSPECT a serious crime, it’s the law otherwise they will lose their license to practice.
Jesus fucking Christ
I’m pretty sure your just rage baiting, but in case ur really that dense is your argument that if they get called on because they currently kill animals and fantasize about moving on to humans, u better not tattle or they will kill you? Isn’t that kind of proving the point that maybe police should get involved because it’s a matter of time until they commit murder? And if a psychiatrist isn’t the mental health specialist on that then who the fuck is?