While the New Mexico Department of Health said it can’t pinpoint the baby’s exact cause of death, officials believe it could have been linked to the mother’s drinking raw milk during pregnancy.

Health officials in New Mexico are warning against consuming raw dairy products after a newborn baby in the state died from a listeria infection that they say was likely contracted when the baby’s mother drank raw milk during pregnancy.

The New Mexico Department of Health in a news release said that officials believe the mother consumed unpasteurized milk while pregnant, which could have led to the listeria infection.

Officials cannot pinpoint the exact source of the listeria that led to the baby’s death, the release said, but it noted that “the tragic death underscores the serious risks raw dairy poses to pregnant women, young children, elderly New Mexicans and anyone with a weakened immune system.”

  • SnarkoPolo@lemmy.world
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    No shit.

    If Conservatives want to poison themselves with raw milk, get on with it. But keep kids out of your performative bullshit.

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      How? Decades of Republicans cheapening public education, that’s how. We are becoming that dystopian society Carl Sagan spoke of, where science has been replaced by magic.

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      Because of the typical incomplete and cherrypicked argument they cite that people get sick and die from pasteurized milk anyway.

      While it’s completely true that people do get sick from outbreaks in pasteurized milk over time, there is no perfect system, the millions and millions of people who consume pasteurized dairy vs the thousands that dare to drink unpasteurized milk per capita objectively and obviously wildly points out that pasteurized is ridiculous orders of magnitude safer than raw milk.

      But in typical willfully ignorant fashion, they ignore the science and dive into some nebulous and BS health benefits of raw milk while ignoring the game of death roulette they play.

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      because in the 90s we started teaching people that their feelings are the truth, rather than mostly stupid and wrong.

      if there is anything in common with ignorant fools it’s that they think their feelings is the only measure of things, and truth and knowledge is just a feeling they feel like any other.

      i was lucky enough to learn in school that my feelings are stupid and wrong and they need to be verified before i can trust them and that other people know more about things than i do. but i’m part of the homosexual queertrans agenda like that.

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    Cow’s milk belongs to calves and no human being should consume dairy or products derived thereof, be it raw or pasteurized.

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      I mean, raw milk would be perfectly safe to drink, if you were suckling it straight from an animal’s udder, but that seems to be frowned upon in polite society so instead we put it in bottles where contaminants can live and grow in the milk.

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      Her baby is dead and you want to see her in prison for murder?

      I’m pretty sure whatever lessons there are in life to learn will be better learned by the loss of a child rather than incarceration in a system that doesn’t really emphasize rehabilitation in any meaningful way.

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    L.monocytogenes has the big issues of needing very few active colonies to cause trouble, especially to kids. It could trigger an infection so easily and across such a huge range of foodstuff and products or even basic ingredients that it’s scary.

    Now, thankfully, modern science (10000 bC ~ today) found out that heat deals with such things just fine. Especially since a guy named Pasteur understood that a mild thermic process might be enough to deactivate most patogens. Even better yet more people later on found out that high temperature can even destroy most pathogens if applied for a rational number of cicles and time. Not enough to damage the nutritional properties. Just about enough to do what the doom guy does with these demons to the pathogens and other microbes.

    Turns out drinking untreated food products is severly dangerous. When and where did this trend start.

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      This seems to be another example of people not understanding the most basic exponential function.

      If you have 3% listeria… And it doubles every minute. In 5 minutes you have full-blown listeria and you’re dead…

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    I still think we should take the warning labels off of things and let the problem sort itself out.

    If we can thin our own herd let’s go ahead and do it.

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    There should be much higher safety testing requiremnts for raw milk if people are going to sell it in stores. Every raw milk outlet should need to hire a microbiologist to ship it offsite.

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        I can’t fathom a reason why pasteurization shouldn’t be required.

        some fancy old fashioned dairy products which I cannot name need some of the microbes in raw milk to be made.

        It should be a fucking hobbyist product, and sold at specialised stores, not in fucking “tescos” or whatever the yankee equivalent is.

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        Same, but source contol is a real method that works for this kind of thing when done well.

        Europe does source control with eggs. By very strictly monitoring sources they can prevent outbreaks and don’t need to soak eggs in a chlorine solution like we do here.

        This is probably why people apply a similar logic to pasteurization. Pasteurization is a heat process for milk and therefore far less of a problem than egg chlorination baths (which notably puts organohalides into the drainwater which may or may not degrade before going elsewhere.)

        What shouldn’t be allowed is not fucking doing any kind of process to reduce infections and letting people get sick. Especially because healthcare is privatized here.

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    If you’re going to listen to a fucking moron who ate road kill and got a portion of his brain EATEN BY A WORM THEN YOU DESERVE WHATEVER THE FUCK HAPPENS TO YOU OR YOUR FAMILY.

    FUCK ALL OF THESE PEOPLE!

    Sorry, an innocent child died , personally I think the parents should be prosecuted harshly, BUT FUCK ALL THESE STUPID PEOPLE.